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The more things change, the more they stay the same.Spare the rope and spoil the child. Next: Mexico reinstates human sacrifice.
1 posted on 11/29/2006 7:38:38 AM PST by 3AngelaD
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To: 3AngelaD

I'm all for torture as a penalty, but I really want it as punishment for physical crimes such as rape or murder.


2 posted on 11/29/2006 7:41:21 AM PST by ConservativeMind
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To: 3AngelaD

Next, you can get whip for thinking the state isn't god.

And that's lenient.


3 posted on 11/29/2006 7:45:02 AM PST by Killborn (Pres. Bush isn't Pres. Reagan. Then again, Pres. Regan isn't Pres. Washington. God bless them all.)
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To: 3AngelaD

I have a feeling that in the end, Mr. Morales will himself receive a whipping at the hands of his own justice system.


4 posted on 11/29/2006 7:46:44 AM PST by Brilliant
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To: 3AngelaD

I'm not going to disagree with Morales here.

How many criminals could have been turned from a life of crime by the short-lived humiliation and pain of the lash? The trouble with many modern penal systems are that they are comfortable, and make it easy for criminals to avoid reality. Comfortable criminals do not reform.

I am way past caring about the "barbaric" nature of corporal punishment. Let Morales use the whip: let's watch and see if it works.


5 posted on 11/29/2006 7:49:14 AM PST by agere_contra
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To: 3AngelaD

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/peru/worlds/sacrifice1.html
The Sacrificial Ceremony
by Liesl Clark


The Tanta Carhua Story
"Beautiful beyond exaggeration," is how one Spanish chronicler described Tanta Carhua. Carhua was a ten-year old Inca child whose father offered her to the Inca Emperor as a Capacocha sacrifice. She was taken by priests to Cuzco where she met the Inca Emperor, and on her return journey to the mountain where she would be sacrificed the procession passed through her home village. According to the legends, Tanta Carhua told the village: "You can finish with me now because I could not be more honoured than by the feasts which they celebrated for me in Cuzco."

Tanta Carhua was then taken to a high Andean mountain, placed in a shaft-tomb and walled in alive. Chicha, a maize alcohol, was fed to her both before and after her death. And in death, this beautiful ten-year old child became a goddess, speaking to her people as an oracle from the mountain, which was reconsecrated in her name.

Capacocha
Very little is known about Capacocha, the sacred Inca ceremony of human sacrifice, but with each new archaeological discovery of a sacrificial mummy, more is revealed. The earliest and only known written accounts of the ritual are chronicles written by Spanish conquistador historians. From the chronicles and from each new discovery of a mummy, the pieces of this great puzzle are put together to reveal an intricate and extremely important ritual that involved sacrifice of children, worship of mountains as gods, and elaborate burial procedures.

Sacrifices were often made during or after a portentous event: an earthquake, an epidemic, a drought, or after the death of an Inca Emperor. According to archaeologist Juan Schobinger, "Inca sacrifices often involved the child of a chief. The sacrificed child was thought of as a deity, ensuring a tie between the chief and the Inca emperor, who was considered a descendant of the Sun god. The sacrifice also bestowed an elevated status on the chief's family and descendants." The honour of sacrifice was bestowed not only on the family, but was forever immortalized in the child. It is believed that the sacrificial children had to be perfect, without so much as a blemish or irregularity in their physical beauty.

After a child was chosen or offered to the emperor, a procession would begin from the child's home village to Cuzco, the crown seat of the Inca empire. Priests, family members, and chiefs would accompany the child on this great journey to meet the emperor. Huge ceremonial feasts would take place in Cuzco where the child would meet the emperor and forever bring credit to the family in this important event. Priests would then lead the grand procession to the designated high mountain. Often, a base camp would be established lower on the mountain, at a more comfortable elevation. Here, llamas (which carried up 80-pound loads of soil, grass, and often stones for the camp structures from the villages below) would be coralled, and permanent stone structures would be built to offer shelter to the priests and the child.
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Continued at http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/peru/worlds/sacrifice2.html


7 posted on 11/29/2006 7:57:19 AM PST by LRS
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To: 3AngelaD

Back to the future.


14 posted on 11/29/2006 8:19:08 AM PST by wildbill
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To: 3AngelaD

Watch all the Leftists who go wild over alleged human rights infractions at Abu Graib and Guantanamo suddenly laud physical punishment if practiced by a Leftist dictator wannabe like Morales.


15 posted on 11/29/2006 8:26:57 AM PST by Unam Sanctam
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To: 3AngelaD


Whipping? But aren't all Marxists great humanitarians?


18 posted on 11/29/2006 8:37:18 AM PST by Tzimisce (How Would Mohammed Vote? Hillary for President! www.dndorks.com)
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To: 3AngelaD
"reviving the ancient tradition of whipping petty criminals"

Why limit this to "petty criminals" - let's have whipping for big criminals like liberal pols, corrupt UN diplomats, and terrorists!! In these cases it would not be an alternative to jail time but an introduction to jail.....
20 posted on 11/29/2006 9:45:48 AM PST by Enchante (America-haters and Terrorists Around the World Embrace Chamberlain Democrats)
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To: 3AngelaD

Wow. Great.
Is he going to bring back infanticide too? Ritual sacrifice?

They should go back to their Inca roots and give up the wheel too.


21 posted on 11/29/2006 10:23:33 AM PST by Bon mots
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"Whenever I did something wrong, I received punishment with a chicote [the loose end of a rope], and always believed that the system our ancestors used was better than the system in the northern justice system. It's much more democratic," he said. He must mean democrats. Celebrate diversity. Inca Sharia, what a concept. This dork has also praised the taliban and said he wants to run Bolivia just like them. I think some international observer report said that the Taliban was running things just like Bolivia, or the Marxist FARC narcotrafficantes or something. The synergies abound!
24 posted on 11/29/2006 5:26:36 PM PST by Kitten Festival
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