Joe Biden (D) Puta
Posted on 11/27/2006 5:55:59 PM PST by NormsRevenge
COLUMBIA, S.C. - Sen. Joe Biden, the Senate Foreign Relations Committee's incoming chairman, wants to get tough with Mexico, calling it an "erstwhile democracy" with a "corrupt system" responsible for illegal immigration and drug problems in the U.S.
Biden, D-Del., was in Columbia on Monday in his first postelection trip to this first-in-the-South presidential primary state as he continues to line up support for his presidential bid.
During a question-and-answer session before more than 230 Columbia Rotary Club members, Biden was asked about immigration problems.
Biden, who favors tightening the U.S.-Mexico border with fences, said immigration is driven by money in low-wage Mexico.
"Mexico is a country that is an erstwhile democracy where they have the greatest disparity of wealth," Biden said. "It is one of the wealthiest countries in the hemisphere and because of a corrupt system that exists in Mexico, there is the 1 percent of the population at the top, a very small middle class and the rest is abject poverty."
Unless the political dynamics change in Mexico and U.S. employers who hire illegal immigrants are punished, illegal immigration won't stop. "All the rest is window dressing," he said.
An even bigger problem are illegal drugs "coming up through corrupt Mexico," he said. "People are driving across that border with tons, tons — hear me — tons of everything from byproducts for methamphetamines, to cocaine, to heroine."
Covering a variety of topics, Biden kept most of the crowd in their seats for an hour — twice as long as scheduled.
"I warn all of you, all of you making more than a million bucks — I hope you all are — I'm taking away your tax cut," Biden said. "I'm not joking."
The extra revenue would generate $75 billion a year and pay for a backlog in national security and local law enforcement programs, Biden said.
Biden's appeal for bipartisanship captured Bruce Rippeteau, a former Rotary president who says he's in the Genghis Khan wing of the Republican Party.
He "was saying some important things in a nonpolitical way," Rippeteau said.
"I want to compliment him about what he didn't say," Wilson said. "He never one time mentioned weapons of mass destruction."
Biden will lead the Foreign Relations panel because Republicans around the nation lost seats in the Nov. 7 elections. That tide didn't reach Republican-dominated South Carolina, where the GOP maintained its four U.S. House seats and Democrats kept their two.
I don't think that any tax "reform" will make it through the DNC Congress.
The issue that is going to bite the DNC in their generously plump and posh buttocks is the AMT. There is nowhere to run or hide on this issue -- their own constituents are being increasingly sucked down the AMT rabbit hole, and said constituents want something done about it.
Trouble is, where will the offsetting revenue come from?
Right there, we have a classic DC death-cage smackdown: the GOP tax cut extention vs. AMT reform. Since AMT hits blue-staters harder, I don't see the GOP making a big effort to undo the AMT. Add to this that any GOP Congresscritter smart enough to recite some history (I know, I'm being highly optimistic) will be able to say "Hey -- the AMT was the Democrats' idea!" and keep hanging it around the DNC's neck on talking-head shows and we have an issue made for partisan politics.
The border issue, by comparison, has a huge bang:buck political payoff. If the DNC were to deliver on this issue, they could own Congress for the next four election cycles. Consider this: where will the supposedly PO'ed "hispanic vote" go if the DNC pivots on this issue? They're not about to vote Libertarian, now are they? They're trapped, just like the Second Amendment voters are trapped when GOP candidates call for gun control. Voting for Democrats won't improve the situation for gun owners, so you're stuck taking it with a smile from your own team.
Same deal here. The DNC could control the border issue and not suffer the same sort of consequences that the GOP would. The DNC can also spin a tough border position as a winning position for the trade unions and protecting "American jobs" and so on.
The GOP just seems absolutely clueless about the political danger of their current position on border control. It worked as long as the GOP was running the show. Now they're not running the show in Congress and the DNC appears to have stumbled upon a clue.
Borders are my #1 issue when voting. Given the choice between a pro-amnesty Republican and a pro-border-security Democrat, I will choose the Democrat every time.
I think we are seeing a parallel here between the "Only Nixon could go to China" and this "Only the Democrats can stop the invasion of illegals".
Still, the idea that they're going to pay for the border "reform" with this particular chunk of cash, is a bit of a stretch, IMO.
Unfortunately, like all politicians, he lies. From http://www.ontheissues.org/Senate/Joe_Biden.htm
Joe Biden on Immigration
Click here for 6 full quotes on Immigration OR background on Immigration.
Voted YES on establishing a Guest Worker program. (May 2006)
Voted YES on allowing illegal aliens to participate in Social Security. (May 2006)
Voted YES on giving Guest Workers a path to citizenship. (May 2006)
Voted YES on allowing more foreign workers into the US for farm work. (Jul 1998)
Voted NO on visas for skilled workers. (May 1998)
Voted NO on limit welfare for immigrants. (Jun 1997)
plugs, bad plugs
Good point, but not a complete one.
You see, the ruling elite in Mexico realize that as long as they keep the massess ignorant, uneducated, and ardent soccer (football) fans, then they will be safe and can do what they want. What they want is to send the people to the US not only so they don't have to create jobs for them in Mexico, but because they can get so much richer by having the workers work in the US and send their wages back home. I can promise you that the small towns and villages are not seeing much of the money that is sent back. Somewhere along the way, the ruling class has figured out how to get a percentage off the top of whatever is sent back to Mexico. If you stop that circle, then the rich stop getting rich, on both sides of the border.
Should read: Biden, who voted for Amnesty.
S. 2611 (Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act of 2006)
Biden (D-DE), Yea
Well said guys. The Stupid Party dropped the ball on this issue.
Assuming those high income folks make no changes to their financial affairs. HA! Fat chance!
So now Biden is tougher on Mexico than George Bush?
Joe Biden (D) Puta
There is no difference, in my eyes, between the authoritative nature of you people on the far right and your counterparts on the far left; only the issues you champion are different, and even those are getting blurrier. I'm hoping that after the political shifts and mergers are finally carried out, they'll be more lovers of freedom on one side than there are lovers of the state...I'm not going to hold my breath, though.
That's called a 'tax increase'. Remember the AlGore formula: "If you make $200,000 a year for five years, then you are a millionaire."
Somebody take this bum on a tour of Fort Sumter and let the cadets of the Citadel have a little cannon practice.
" I'm taking away your tax cut," Biden said. "I'm not joking."
Which means the rats will be raising the tax rates which will actually lower the tax revenue.
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The experience of being snookered.
You go, Hairplugs.
Biden's mad that his candidate, Obragroe didn't win.
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