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Physicist moots wireless electricity
ABC ^ | 15 Nov 2006 | Anna Salleh

Posted on 11/27/2006 6:03:25 AM PST by FLOutdoorsman

You may one day be able to recharge your laptop or mobile phone without having to plug it into the wall, says a US physicist.

But others say there are many hurdles before such transfer of energy means we can say goodbye to wires.

Assistant Professor Marin Soljacic, of Massachusetts Institute of Technology, will present his team's work at the American Institute of Physics forum in San Francisco this week.

Today's wireless transfer of energy, such as the transfer of light energy from the Sun for solar power or the transfer of microwaves from transmitters for communication, involve relatively low levels of energy.

But recharging devices like laptops requires a much higher level of energy. And if this was routinely zapped through the air it could 'fry' any living organisms that get in the way.

But Prof Soljacic says he has found a way of transmitting energy so that only the devices that it is recharging will pick it up, so it will not affect humans.

Instead of using traditional radiation, he wants to use the part of the electromagnetic field that is 'non-radiative'.

He says devices can be tuned to the frequency of this field and thus act as a sink for all the energy the transmitter gives out.

Prof Soljacic says this would prevent energy radiating out to areas it does not need to go to, providing an efficient and safe method of wireless energy transfer.

"The team calculates that an object the size of a laptop could be recharged within a few metres of the power source," he says. "Placing one source in each room could provide coverage throughout your home."

Prof Soljacic also thinks the technology could be used to power freely roaming robots in a factory. Finding a 'magic' frequency

But Australian physicists, yet to see the full details of Prof Soljacic's work, are sceptical of his claims.

They say the challenge is finding a 'magic' frequency that does not also affect living organisms and thus pose possible health risks.

"You would be reintroducing all the problems that we went through with mobile phones," says Dr Geoff Anstis of the University of Technology, Sydney, referring to the uncertainty surrounding any long-term health effects of using mobiles.

"And it wouldn't be until a couple of decades that you may be happy that there isn't a significant problem."

His colleague Professor Geoff Smith agrees and says there are also technical challenges to keeping the devices tuned with the transmitters, thus preventing the general release of stray energy.

"I think this is nice physics but there's a way to go before it would be possible," says Prof Smith.

He says any changes in the surrounding environment could "de-tune" the system and stop the safe and efficient transfer of power.

Electrical engineer Dr Trevor Bird of CSIRO's ICT Centre says attempts so far to develop wireless power transfer have not been very successful.

He agrees that safety and technical barriers to wireless power systems are huge and would like further details on Prof Soljacic's proposal.

Dr Bird also says that, depending on the frequency of the field, the antenna on the device being recharged may have to be very large.


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; Unclassified
KEYWORDS: electricity; energy; nicolatesla; tesla; wireless
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To: KillTime

Now thats funny. But, I still don't know about being anywhere near these puppies. They sound like lawsuit magnets.


21 posted on 11/27/2006 6:28:36 AM PST by dalight
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To: Brilliant

All hell breaks loose when such electric fields start ruining sensitive equipment like HDD actuators and digital cameras, and any circuit with a wayward coil of wire to get energised ruinously by induced currents!


22 posted on 11/27/2006 6:31:28 AM PST by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: FLOutdoorsman
I've been reading science fiction for years and a lot of those stories had wireless power transmission. And in a fictional world you can ignore inconvenient realities, like for example the Inverse Square Law. But I guess if you can get around that, the "magical" frequency would be a good thing to have.
23 posted on 11/27/2006 6:31:55 AM PST by WildBill2275 (The Second Amendment guarantees all of your other rights.)
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To: WildBill2275
On a side topic, 'magical' frequencies have long been speculated with having the ability to levitate objects.
24 posted on 11/27/2006 6:34:35 AM PST by FLOutdoorsman (Don't hate the media. Become the media.)
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To: FLOutdoorsman
My First Law of Electromagnetics: If it's new, it will ALWAYS adversely affect the ham radio bands.
25 posted on 11/27/2006 6:38:50 AM PST by Thrownatbirth (.....when the sidewalks are safe for the little guy.)
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To: KillTime
ROFL

Warning: Even though these microwaves are about as harmful as the leakage from an ordinary microwave oven (not much), do not put computers, televisions, other sensitive electrical equipment, food, liquids, paper, glass, flammable substances, magnets, or living things in between the base and satellite units. Just in case.

26 posted on 11/27/2006 6:39:16 AM PST by delacoert
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To: reagan_fanatic
We're already swimming in multiple energy fields now (microwave, tv and radio signals, cells, radio transmissions, etc.) Sometimes I wonder what the cumulative effect all that radiated energy has on the human body.

Your comment reminds me of "Waldo" from the Robert A. Heinlein book "Waldo and Magic, Inc". It's one of Heinlein's novellas. Part of the story has to do with the problems from all the "stuff" being shot through people and what it does to them. It also has something called "deKalbs" (if I recall correctly) which are wireless energy devices.

I think Heinlein wrote "Waldo" in the 1940's.

Heinlien was, IMHO, one of the best science fiction writers ever. He's my personal favorite.

27 posted on 11/27/2006 6:42:28 AM PST by isthisnickcool (If you can't light a fire in the vacuum of space what's the deal with the Sun?)
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To: dalight

"He's using the non-electromagnetic part of the electromagnetic spectrum. :)"


Is that like using a football bat?


28 posted on 11/27/2006 6:56:58 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (It's turtles all the way down.)
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To: FLOutdoorsman
Instead of using traditional radiation, he wants to use the part of the electromagnetic field that is 'non-radiative'.

Will some physist out there explain untraditional, non-radiative radiation to me? Also how energy can be transmitted without being "radiated"?

29 posted on 11/27/2006 7:00:23 AM PST by LexBaird (98% satisfaction guaranteed. There's just no pleasing some people.)
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To: FLOutdoorsman

Wow! Does that mean that they won't kill me by stopping or damaging my pacemaker.


30 posted on 11/27/2006 7:15:47 AM PST by WildBill2275 (The Second Amendment guarantees all of your other rights.)
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To: beezdotcom

bump from your alma mater:)


31 posted on 11/27/2006 7:18:00 AM PST by NotADove
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To: LexBaird

"Also how energy can be transmitted without being "radiated"?"

Carrier wave.


32 posted on 11/27/2006 7:23:06 AM PST by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: FLOutdoorsman

In other news; Tumors of the brain have shown a sharp increase in recent years. Medical experts have no explanation.


33 posted on 11/27/2006 7:41:35 AM PST by Mike Darancette (Democrat Happens!)
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To: FLOutdoorsman

Broadcast power seems inherently terribly inefficient. Only a tiny portion of the power broadcast could be used. Most would radiate into space that contains no receiver.


34 posted on 11/27/2006 7:50:39 AM PST by arthurus (Better to fight them over THERE than over HERE)
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To: LexBaird
I'm an electrical engineer, not a physicist, but if it's not radiation then it's conduction. It is possible to have a fairly well directed EM field, but if it's not tightly directed then it is bathing the area in EM fields - even if it's the "non-radiative" kind, and even if the bodies or other devices in the field are not the intended energy sink. Controlling all that - avoiding unintended consequences - without a tightly directed field would be big problem.
I guess that there really is one other alternative to conduction or radiation, analogous to thermal convection, and that would be an electron beam. Any takers for that in their home?
35 posted on 11/27/2006 7:58:20 AM PST by Nevermore
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To: FLOutdoorsman

Zot powered!


36 posted on 11/27/2006 9:07:48 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Nevermore
I was always taught that anything that originated at a source and propagated outward was said to "radiate". Even if closely focused, I don't see how projecting energy though space can be anything but "radiation".

It seems the author wants to avoid the association with radioactivity that the word "radiation' has, which freaks out the luddites over things such as irradiated food.
37 posted on 11/27/2006 9:14:48 AM PST by LexBaird (98% satisfaction guaranteed. There's just no pleasing some people.)
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To: Nevermore
To use the electron beam over a distance of more than a few inches wouldn't it have to be extremely high energy resulting in some bothersome xrays. Or... would you pull a vacuum so that the electrons could travel further.

I'm not sure which I would prefer, a lead suit or a space suit. I think I may stick to an extension cord for now.
38 posted on 11/27/2006 6:46:44 PM PST by nh1
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39 posted on 01/06/2007 12:42:02 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Ahmedumbass and the mullahcracy is doomed. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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