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The real problem is that abstinence is almost never taught in schools.
1 posted on 11/26/2006 10:21:48 AM PST by wagglebee
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2 posted on 11/26/2006 10:22:31 AM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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3 posted on 11/26/2006 10:23:00 AM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: wagglebee

I can't recall the name of the book...but I think some sociologist/demographer
wrote a book (with facts/figures) that showed that if young Americans
1. didn't have children before marriage
2. didn't get married before age 21
and
3. at least graduated from high school

(or some similar set of priorities)...
then their odds of ending up in poverty were
VERY low.

Bet that book isn't required reading in public schools!


4 posted on 11/26/2006 10:26:40 AM PST by VOA
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'I rang and told the boy but he said he didn't believe me. I could tell it was just his word against mine,' she says.

Obviously, neither has heard of DNA tests.

5 posted on 11/26/2006 10:27:42 AM PST by glorgau
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"'A key problem is that there is no compulsory sex education in our schools.

'We need to give young women and men the tools to navigate their way through a highly sexually-charged society.'


Typical liberal response—treat the symptom and not the disease. The root of the problem is the constant bombardment in TV and in print. This will never end until something is done there.
8 posted on 11/26/2006 10:41:27 AM PST by Windcatcher (Earth to libs: MARXISM DOESN'T SELL HERE. Try somewhere else.)
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the Government is failing to tackle the spiralling problem of under-age sex

Why is this a problem the GOVERNMENT should be tackling? When did it become Government's responsibility to control the sexual habits of its citizens? I see that as more a moral issue than a legal or legislative one.

9 posted on 11/26/2006 10:44:00 AM PST by IronJack (=)
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To: wagglebee

This is sad but it happens. There was a lot of emphasis on waiting but what concerned me the most was how twice abortion was casually mentioned without using the word. Kids used to be taught that when you make a baby you grow up and work and take care of the child. Now it's like they make mistakes that get "fixed" for them and continue in a child role.If kids want the rights of adulthood then parents should make sure live up to the responsibilities also IMO.


12 posted on 11/26/2006 10:58:29 AM PST by CindyDawg
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I think it would be better to be taught in the home. Why is it the schools responsibility?


14 posted on 11/26/2006 11:02:59 AM PST by Long Island Pete
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"'A key problem is that there is no compulsory sex education in our schools.

'We need to give young women and men the tools to navigate their way through a highly sexually-charged society.'"

Yeah, this makes sense if you belong to the Church of the Multiple Orgasm. I teach high school students, and no offense to any of my students, but even with the best tools available most of my students wouldn't have the ability to make the right decisions needed for a sane, reasonable sex life. Teenagers don't have what it takes to make a rational risk analysis.

This article outlines in semipornographic detail the sex lives of junior high girls, complete with remorse, drinking, statuatory rape, and the chance for catching an STD - and the writer leads us to people who argue for "better tools" for young people.

If the "sex is OK" people are really in favor of what they say, why not give kids a motel room, a carafe of white wine, a hot tub, and a copy of the Kama Sutra (one with pictures, in case they haven't learned how to read)? How about bringing the boys to a prostitute?

If this article isn't an argument in favor of abstinance and monogamy, nothing is.


19 posted on 11/26/2006 11:12:27 AM PST by redpoll (redpoll)
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Sad...... I vaguely remember the difference on how girls/women acted in relation to guys ranging from Middle School to College. In Middle School, they seem outgoing, friendly and even so in H.S. but college, it gets colder.... This would be the core problem. Being the nonbeliever at the time, didn't make the connection but being a believer, the connection is made. One guy at my church is doing something called "Courting" versus dating. He is about 19 or 20 years old. I remembered him since he was 13, nice kid, very wise and straight head on his shoulders.

In today's "modern" world, the boys need to be taught respect and to wait until marriage, the girls should be taught self respect. Also, opportunities for sexual behavior need to be reduced/eliminated.
20 posted on 11/26/2006 11:21:25 AM PST by CORedneck
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To: wagglebee

They are clearly not without information. It's a lack of education in morals, not sex, that's the problem.


25 posted on 11/26/2006 11:27:44 AM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: wagglebee

Among all the categories the one missing is "lost virginity on marraige night". How sad.


26 posted on 11/26/2006 11:30:24 AM PST by Jack Black
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Will leave it up to you whether you want to have the girls read this or not. Sometimes it helps if it comes from a source other than parents.


27 posted on 11/26/2006 11:31:42 AM PST by WVNan
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Men who want a woman's body don't necessarily want her for real love. If a guy isn't willing to wait for a girl til the time's right, its going make a sexual encounter feel cheap.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

29 posted on 11/26/2006 11:32:16 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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"'He kept telling me he loved me and everyone was doing it."

The media are doing their best to help the young man make his case that "everyone is doing it."

32 posted on 11/26/2006 11:59:40 AM PST by Montfort
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From the article: "And yet despite spending millions of pounds on sex education and free contraceptives, experts say the Government is failing to tackle the spiralling problem of under-age sex - and the highest teenage pregnancy rate in Europe. "

Sometimes a person has to wonder just how liberals manage to feed themselves and tie their shoes.

35 posted on 11/26/2006 12:03:57 PM PST by William Tell (RKBA for California (rkba.members.sonic.net) - Volunteer by contacting Dave at rkba@sonic.net)
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"There is nothing new under the sun."

This isn't a new problem, though it is a chronic one that ebbs and flows. One thing I noticed is conspicuously absent: how many of these girls are being raised in single-mom households -- in other words, without a dad living at home and thereby involved in her day-to-day life?

Among many culprits for promiscuity, can lack of dads be one? Without a dad around, a little girl is less likely to enjoy a comfortably affectionate relationship with him, the main man in her life. She gets older, has no experience, is already insecure with regard to male affection.

I'll bet that a pretty high percentage of these girls have pretty unstable daughter-father relationships.

The really sad part is that half the time or more, it isn't that dad dropped the family, it's that mom dropped the dad and is getting enough of a portion of his income to reduce him to poverty. He must work twice as hard to be a "good dad" if only because he has to do it by remote -- he's not a resident dad, most of the time by order of the resident mom. The truth is that women instigate the vast majority of divorces.

Yet in our society, dads get all the blame and single moms are saluted. Promiscuity, gangs, and teen suicides are some of the fruits of enabling a single-mom society. I know lots of people can't handle acknowleding it, but it's true nontheless.

I'm going to get flamed I know. Oh well.

44 posted on 11/26/2006 12:54:45 PM PST by Finny (God continue to Bless President G.W. Bush with wisdom, popularity, safety and success.)
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To: wagglebee

There is a basic principal of sex that the young ones don't understand.

Sex is for making babies. conttraception fails.

Another principal...
The more sex you have with various partners, the more likely you will get sick.

They don't promote these principals in hip/hop/rap videos, and unfortunately it seems that is where many kids are getting their values from.


52 posted on 11/26/2006 1:44:43 PM PST by Scotswife
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Not only is abstinence not taught in schools, the rate of illegitimate births in the US is up to 37%, so there may not be good examples at home. Add to that the cultural atmosphere of all sex, all the time and you're a weirdo if you're not fornicating.

I am not cheerful about this.


54 posted on 11/26/2006 2:17:48 PM PST by little jeremiah
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"tell they wanted me to have a termination..."

Translation - her parents wanted to kill their grandchild.


57 posted on 11/26/2006 2:25:21 PM PST by little jeremiah
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