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The true cost of sex under 16
UK Daily Mail ^ | 11/23/06 | Barbara Davies& Alison Smith-Squire

Posted on 11/26/2006 10:21:45 AM PST by wagglebee

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The real problem is that abstinence is almost never taught in schools.
1 posted on 11/26/2006 10:21:48 AM PST by wagglebee
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2 posted on 11/26/2006 10:22:31 AM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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3 posted on 11/26/2006 10:23:00 AM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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I can't recall the name of the book...but I think some sociologist/demographer
wrote a book (with facts/figures) that showed that if young Americans
1. didn't have children before marriage
2. didn't get married before age 21
and
3. at least graduated from high school

(or some similar set of priorities)...
then their odds of ending up in poverty were
VERY low.

Bet that book isn't required reading in public schools!


4 posted on 11/26/2006 10:26:40 AM PST by VOA
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'I rang and told the boy but he said he didn't believe me. I could tell it was just his word against mine,' she says.

Obviously, neither has heard of DNA tests.

5 posted on 11/26/2006 10:27:42 AM PST by glorgau
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To: VOA

I read a Mona Charen book that covered that.

3 steps to avoiding poverty, I think it was.

1. Graduate high school
2. No children before marriage
3. Get a job, any job.

Follow those three steps and you will likely never live in poverty.


6 posted on 11/26/2006 10:34:38 AM PST by L98Fiero (Built to please and raised to rock.)
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To: VOA

"Bet that book isn't required reading in public schools!"

Of course it's not-after all, poverty is the result of "da man keepin' da brotha' man down", and everyone knows "da man" is a cruel heartless Republican/s;)


7 posted on 11/26/2006 10:38:16 AM PST by Frank_2001
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"'A key problem is that there is no compulsory sex education in our schools.

'We need to give young women and men the tools to navigate their way through a highly sexually-charged society.'


Typical liberal response—treat the symptom and not the disease. The root of the problem is the constant bombardment in TV and in print. This will never end until something is done there.
8 posted on 11/26/2006 10:41:27 AM PST by Windcatcher (Earth to libs: MARXISM DOESN'T SELL HERE. Try somewhere else.)
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the Government is failing to tackle the spiralling problem of under-age sex

Why is this a problem the GOVERNMENT should be tackling? When did it become Government's responsibility to control the sexual habits of its citizens? I see that as more a moral issue than a legal or legislative one.

9 posted on 11/26/2006 10:44:00 AM PST by IronJack (=)
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To: L98Fiero

Thanks for that tip on the Mona Charen book on the "how ot avoid poverty"
topic.

I'll need to track that down. My brother and his wife will need that
to help "infect" my niece with those concepts before she gets in
her teens!


10 posted on 11/26/2006 10:46:32 AM PST by VOA
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To: IronJack

I agree. The UK is a great example of why the welfare/nanny state WILL NEVER work and in fact destroys the moral fabric of society.


11 posted on 11/26/2006 10:50:40 AM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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This is sad but it happens. There was a lot of emphasis on waiting but what concerned me the most was how twice abortion was casually mentioned without using the word. Kids used to be taught that when you make a baby you grow up and work and take care of the child. Now it's like they make mistakes that get "fixed" for them and continue in a child role.If kids want the rights of adulthood then parents should make sure live up to the responsibilities also IMO.


12 posted on 11/26/2006 10:58:29 AM PST by CindyDawg
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That book is titled "Do-Gooders - How Liberals hurt those they claim to help (And the rest of us)". It's pretty good.


13 posted on 11/26/2006 10:59:39 AM PST by L98Fiero (Built to please and raised to rock.)
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To: wagglebee

I think it would be better to be taught in the home. Why is it the schools responsibility?


14 posted on 11/26/2006 11:02:59 AM PST by Long Island Pete
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The left seems to avoid using the word abortion whenever possible. They would prefer that society see "termination" of a pregnancy as a woman's option that should be given even less consideration than hairstyle.


15 posted on 11/26/2006 11:03:16 AM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: Long Island Pete

I think abstinence should be taught at home and it should be the only thing taught in schools (unless not teaching anything in schools can be avoided).


16 posted on 11/26/2006 11:05:27 AM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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Uh huh. You know, this is going to happen but mothers need to toughen up IMO. Know where your daughters are. Don't let them be going to unchaperoned beach parties and in their boy friend's bedroom. They may still get in trouble but don't make it easy.
17 posted on 11/26/2006 11:07:53 AM PST by CindyDawg
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To: Long Island Pete
I think it would be better to be taught in the home. Why is it the schools responsibility?

Precisely because it isn't being taught at home sufficiently and is creating an enormous societal cost. The schools are also the vehicles by which most of these socially destructive behaviors are being taught and facilitated.

18 posted on 11/26/2006 11:09:18 AM PST by Ronaldus Magnus
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"'A key problem is that there is no compulsory sex education in our schools.

'We need to give young women and men the tools to navigate their way through a highly sexually-charged society.'"

Yeah, this makes sense if you belong to the Church of the Multiple Orgasm. I teach high school students, and no offense to any of my students, but even with the best tools available most of my students wouldn't have the ability to make the right decisions needed for a sane, reasonable sex life. Teenagers don't have what it takes to make a rational risk analysis.

This article outlines in semipornographic detail the sex lives of junior high girls, complete with remorse, drinking, statuatory rape, and the chance for catching an STD - and the writer leads us to people who argue for "better tools" for young people.

If the "sex is OK" people are really in favor of what they say, why not give kids a motel room, a carafe of white wine, a hot tub, and a copy of the Kama Sutra (one with pictures, in case they haven't learned how to read)? How about bringing the boys to a prostitute?

If this article isn't an argument in favor of abstinance and monogamy, nothing is.


19 posted on 11/26/2006 11:12:27 AM PST by redpoll (redpoll)
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Sad...... I vaguely remember the difference on how girls/women acted in relation to guys ranging from Middle School to College. In Middle School, they seem outgoing, friendly and even so in H.S. but college, it gets colder.... This would be the core problem. Being the nonbeliever at the time, didn't make the connection but being a believer, the connection is made. One guy at my church is doing something called "Courting" versus dating. He is about 19 or 20 years old. I remembered him since he was 13, nice kid, very wise and straight head on his shoulders.

In today's "modern" world, the boys need to be taught respect and to wait until marriage, the girls should be taught self respect. Also, opportunities for sexual behavior need to be reduced/eliminated.
20 posted on 11/26/2006 11:21:25 AM PST by CORedneck
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