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Unlike Previous Counterinsurgencies [HOW THE AMERICAN LEFT DEFEATED AMERICA]
The New York Sun ^ | November 21, 2006 | MICHAEL LEDEEN

Posted on 11/25/2006 2:59:49 PM PST by Mia T

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To: Mia T
It's pure Vince Lombardi: Winning is the only thing.... [T]he people must think you're the winner.... If they don't, they'll either avoid you or support the enemy....

."...when people see a strong horse and a weak horse, by nature, they will like the strong horse.".translated from Arabic Dec 2001

weakness is provacative !

21 posted on 11/25/2006 3:51:29 PM PST by Donald Rumsfeld Fan ("Fake but Accurate": NY Times)
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To: MNJohnnie

I'm very concerned about all of the political damage that the Democratic majorities will successfully inflict upon all of us! I also hope that President Bush will finally be using his veto pen whenever it's truly necessary to use it! As long as the Democrats succeed in keeping their political majorities at every political level, this country may be heading in a much worse direction for everyone very soon. Amnesty for illegal immigrants, the creation of the very socialistic North American Union, tax increases, bigger government, more government regulations/red tape, and national security are my major concerns with the next Congress.


22 posted on 11/25/2006 3:56:49 PM PST by johnthebaptistmoore
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To: MNJohnnie
Johnnie, I'm just about ready to give up trying to convince some people. I saw you fighting them on Kristin's thread about Cut and Run FReepers... As was I.

Many here think the best thing to do is give up. Or leave. Or deploy elsewhere. Whatever they call it, if we don't start massive carpet bombing, they want the troops out. So do you really believe the terrorists haven't achieved any of this? I think the Drive By Media, working for the terrorists, have certainly achieved their goal of getting a majority of folks to want to walk away.

23 posted on 11/25/2006 3:57:52 PM PST by Alas Babylon!
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To: Mia T

bttt


24 posted on 11/25/2006 4:08:01 PM PST by bmwcyle (The snake is loose in the garden and Eve just bit the apple.)
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To: Mia T

In the war in Algeria, the islamic fascists, used tactics identical to those employed now in Iraq to drive civilised forces from North Africa, where millions of french citizens had lived for generations in relative peace and prosperity with an arab/muslim majority.

Decrying the evils of "colonialism" the small band(s) of islamic fascists made quick work of traffic cops, delicetessen counters, and bank offices conducting as much uncontrolled mayhem, murder, and carnage as they could in the name of "islamic independence".

The only groups punished more severely by the terrorists than the french nationals who were seen as part of the colonial system, were arabs/muslims who dared to question the wisdom of trying to move beyond colonialism by means of indiscriminant violence directed at those least associated with maintaining colonial domination. Thus, a small group of fanatics was taken to represent a leadership of the arab/mulim majority because desent was suppressed through ruthless violence.

In the inevitable cycle of escalating action and re-action that followed, horrible attrocities were launched by both sides, until de gaule seeing the matter as not worth the cost of victory abandoned french colonials and algeria to domination by the radicals.

It was never true in Algeria that the fascists had popular support. It was true that as long as the possibility existed that the terrorists might win, no arabs/muslims could dare to speak out against them safely, thus creating the illusion of popular support.

The kind of war necessitated by terrorist tactics is gruesome and not likely to win support from meddling liberals in third countries with nothing at stake.

Those not prepared to pay the price, as the French were not in Algeria, must be prepared to lose.


25 posted on 11/25/2006 4:10:10 PM PST by Gail Wynand
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To: Mia T

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26 posted on 11/25/2006 4:15:40 PM PST by Wolverine (A Concerned Citizen)
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To: Mia T

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27 posted on 11/25/2006 5:12:36 PM PST by Twinkie (Faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the Word of God . . .)
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To: Mia T
 

 DEMOC S
COUNTRIES, GROUPS, AND ORGANIZATIONS, THEY TRUST, ADMIRE AND RESPECT

 

 

THEIR HEROES

THEIR EMBLEM, MOTTO AND PATRIOTIC SYMBOL

 


28 posted on 11/25/2006 5:14:07 PM PST by Traditional Vet
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To: Gail Wynand

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The American Left today is no less ruthless nor deadly than the islamofascist terrorist.

Propaganda is the Left's weapon of choice. It can be disseminated globally, with ease, and in real time.

“The presidency had been transformed from a bully pulpit on Pennsylvania Avenue to a stage the size of the world” (Hugh Sidey)

Our fatal error was to surrender that world stage to the Left (and to the terrorists).

If a president can't communicate--and this one can't--you get a proxy. What could the Bush administration have been thinking all these years?


29 posted on 11/25/2006 5:30:50 PM PST by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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Mia T.:

As always, pure GOLD!

Thank you!!!

:O)

P


30 posted on 11/25/2006 5:32:18 PM PST by papasmurf (Join Team 36120 Free Republic Folders. Folding@Home Enter Name:FRpapasmurf)
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thank you, papasmurf :)


31 posted on 11/25/2006 5:43:58 PM PST by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: Twinkie

thanks, Twinkie. :)


32 posted on 11/25/2006 5:46:46 PM PST by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: Mia T

"[T]he people must think you're the winner.... If they don't, they'll either avoid you or support the enemy...."

ie: The Rockefeller memo
(Or... How America must be defeated for Democrats to win.)


33 posted on 11/25/2006 5:47:35 PM PST by tcrlaf (VOTE DEM! You'll Look GREAT In A Burqa!)
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To: Alas Babylon!; MNJohnnie; kristinn; All

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34 posted on 11/25/2006 5:51:04 PM PST by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: Alas Babylon!
Doesn't matter what the public opinions polls claim people think. It matters what GW Bush thinks. And no matter how much they hate it, GW Bush will be CIC until Jan 2009. That is what matters. No matter what their public face is, the people who actually run the Democrat party KNOW what message to draw from the voters bitch slapping the Surrender Now Crowd's hero Lamont took in solid Blue Vermont.

People got to understand Democrats have ONLY one principal, the pursuit of political power. They will gleefully throw their moonbats under the bus rather then lose what our Always Angry types handed them on Nov 7th.

58 of those Democrats, way more then 2xs their margin of majority have to go to solidly red districts and run for reelection in 2008. We may dismiss that fact, you can bet the people who run the Democrat Election machine, like Emanuel, have not.
35 posted on 11/25/2006 5:51:28 PM PST by MNJohnnie (I do not forgive Senator John McCain for helping destroy everything we built since 1980.)
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To: Alas Babylon!
I think the Drive By Media, working for the terrorists, have certainly achieved their goal of getting a majority of folks to want to walk away.

It has been their objective all along.

It's not necessary that they be cheerleaders. But they could at least tell the truth.

They seem incapable of even that...

36 posted on 11/25/2006 5:56:42 PM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: Mia T

"What could Bush have been thinking...?"

Foggy Bottom Ascendant.

Colin Powell. Condi Rice, each in turn ensnared by the organization Nixon knew to hate because it sold out the US victory in WWII and has been selling out the US with its "world opinion - world consensus - our enemies can veto our policies" thinking/agenda for 60 years.

Indeed Nixon simply appointed a stooge as secretary of state and ran foreign policy through the NSA and Kissinger until he pulled off the greatest foreign policy achievement (until then) of the twentieth century.

Bush, believing that only meaningful objectives mattered was not distracted by pointless 1920's style Chicago gangland violence (St Patricks Day massacre has all features of Iraq violence including police uniforms) that could not affect the outcome of war except via influencing public opinion through over exaggeration of its importance by a duplicitous seditious media a la vietnam.

Bush was distracted, delayed and constrained by Powell/Rice and the Foggy Bottom types until he pissed away his political power without acheiving a victory that the American public could feel.

Bush never recovered from the loss of momentum after the WMD failed to be located. He had two choices. He could either meet the media onslaught with a counter attack, (no chance this president) or he could crush the enemy so solidly that Even Eisenhower who knowingly authorized up to 70% casualties among air assault troops, would forever be thought of as the combat soldiers general because when you win the war, casualties are forgiven, no matter how enormous. Bush chose neither.

He could still win the war quickly with the addition of only 10,000 german shepards, a curfew and about 5000 day and night surviellience cameras along with a newly robust rules of engagement.... but thats for another time.


37 posted on 11/25/2006 6:06:09 PM PST by Gail Wynand
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To: Mia T

Thanks, Mia................FRegards


38 posted on 11/25/2006 6:33:07 PM PST by gonzo (I'm not confused anymore. Now I'm sure we have to completely destroy Islam, and FAST!!)
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ROCKEFELLER SEDITION:
WHO IS CALLING THE SHOTS?
Mia T, 01.14.06 

 

MEMOgate: democrat party treason
Secret Democrat manifesto detailing the undermining of President Bush in wartime
by the seditious misuse of classified intelligence data from the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence.

 

 
Saturday, November 08, 2003

If what has happened here is not treason, it is its first cousin. The ones responsible - be they staff or elected or both - should be dealt with quickly and severely sending a lesson to all that this kind of action will not be tolerated, ignored or excused.
 

Sen. Zell Miller, D-Ga.

Raw Data: Dem Memo on Politicizing Intelligence
Fox News | 11-5-03

Wednesday, November 05, 2003

Following is the text of a memo written by a Democrat on the staff of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence that suggests how to make the greatest gain off of intelligence data leading to the war against Iraq. The memo was obtained by Fox News.

Transcript of a memo written by a Democrat on the Senate Intelligence Committee staff suggesting how to make the greatest gain off of intelligence data leading to the war against Iraq.

We have carefully reviewed our options under the rules and believe we have identified the best approach. Our plan is as follows:

1) Pull the majority along as far as we can on issues that may lead to major new disclosures regarding improper or questionable conduct by administration officials. We are having some success in that regard. For example, in addition to the president's State of the Union speech, the chairman has agreed to look at the activities of the Office of the Secretary of Defense as well as Secretary Bolton's office at the State Department. The fact that the chairman supports our investigations into these offices and co-signs our requests for information is helpful and potentially crucial. We don't know what we will find but our prospects for getting the access we seek is far greater when we have the backing of the majority. (Note: we can verbally mention some of the intriguing leads we are pursuing.)

2) Assiduously prepare Democratic "additional views" to attach to any interim or final reports the committee may release. Committee rules provide this opportunity and we intend to take full advantage of it. In that regard, we have already compiled all the public statements on Iraq made by senior administration officials. We will identify the most exaggerated claims and contrast them with the intelligence estimates that have since been declassified. Our additional views will also, among other things, castigate the majority for seeking to limit the scope of the inquiry. The Democrats will then be in a strong position to reopen the question of establishing an independent commission (i.e. the Corzine amendment).

3) Prepare to launch an independent investigation when it becomes clear we have exhausted the opportunity to usefully collaborate with the majority. We can pull the trigger on an independent investigation at any time-- but we can only do so once. The best time to do so will probably be next year either:

A) After we have already released our additional views on an interim report -- thereby providing as many as three opportunities to make our case to the public: 1) additional views on the interim report; 2) announcement of our independent investigation; and 3) additional views on the final investigation; or

B) Once we identify solid leads the majority does not want to pursue. We could attract more coverage and have greater credibility in that context than one in which we simply launch an independent investigation based on principled but vague notions regarding the "use" of intelligence.

In the meantime, even without a specifically authorized independent investigation, we continue to act independently when we encounter foot-dragging on the part of the majority. For example, the FBI Niger investigation was done solely at the request of the vice chairman; we have independently submitted written questions to DoD; and we are preparing further independent requests for information.

Summary

Intelligence issues are clearly secondary to the public's concern regarding the insurgency in Iraq. Yet, we have an important role to play in the revealing the misleading -- if not flagrantly dishonest methods and motives -- of the senior administration officials who made the case for a unilateral, preemptive war. The approach outline above seems to offer the best prospect for exposing the administration's dubious motives and methods.

A former member of the Clinton administration is being linked to a bombshell Senate Intelligence Committee memo outlining a strategy to use information gathered by the committee to help drive President Bush from office in 2004.

In an editorial Friday, the Wall Street Journal reports:

"[Senate Intelligence Committee Vice Chairman Jay Rockefeller, D-WV] refuses to denounce the memo, which he says was unauthorized and written by staffers. If that's the case, at the very least, some heads ought to roll. A good place to start would be minority staffer Christopher Mellon, who serves as deputy assistant secretary of defense for intelligence in the Clinton administration."

One of Mellon's former bosses, former first lady Hillary Clinton, has been sharply critical of the Bush administration's policy in Iraq. Last week she accused the White House of trying cover-up battlefield casualties and said Bush's decision to invade Iraq was "the antithesis of the rule of law."

The Journal recommended that, until those responsible for Democrats' decision to politicize intelligence are fired, the Intelligence Committee should be "shut down, cleaned out and reconstituted later, preferably after the next election."

Clinton Appointee Linked to Bombshell Anti-Bush Intel Memo
NewsMax.com ^ | 11/07/03 | Carl Limbacher and NewsMax.com Staff

 

ROCKEFELLER LIKELY NOT MEMOGATE PRIME MOVER
Put Jay Rockefeller & minority staffer and clintonite, Christopher Mellon, under oath
MEMOgate reeks of the clintons

 

by Mia T, 11-10-03

 

"Rockefeller under intense pressure by others...."

(Sen. Evan Bayh (D-IN)
commenting on MEMOgate)

e have been arguing on this site that MEMOgate reeks of the clintons, that MEMOgate's prime mover could not have been Jay Rockefeller.

U.S. Senator Evan Bayh (D-IN) confirmed as much this week on the floor of the Senate when he disclosed that Sen. Rockefeller had been "under intense pressure -- intense pressure -- by some others to pursue a much more partisan line of inquiry, to be much more confrontational."

It is critical that Sen. Rockefeller and minority staffer Christopher Mellon, who served as deputy assistant secretary of defense for intelligence in the clinton administration, be put under oath. They must be asked to identify MEMOgate's prime mover(s).

Would they do "a Hubbell," ( "roll over one more time for Hillary")?

I don't think so. Not with the potential downside here.

The American Thinker
Sen. Jay Rockefeller a Target?

 

Macsmind is reporting that Sen. Rockefeller may be the target of investigators examining the leak of classified information on the NSA surveillance program.

I'm trying to confirm this information, but several sources are telling me today that some investigators working on the NSA leak probe believe that Senator Jay Rockefeller may have been a little more than “concerned” about NSA. In fact, he may just be the leaker of the program to the NY Times, and is now being considered a “significant person of interest” in the probe.

What I’m told that investigatiors have locked into is this fact that other pundits have identified, that Senator Rockefeller had stated that he went to to great lengths to lock away his memo of concern (in a safe) so that not even other close members of the Senate knew about it. Yet the NY Times, James Risen in fact revealed the letter’s existance in his initial NSA “book excerpt”. The question being asked is if not even Senator Rockefeller’s closest confidants, staffers, etc, knew of the letter’s existance, how therefore did James Risen of the NY Times know about it?

If this incoming information is correct, it would not be the first time Senator Rockefeller – Vice Chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee had been investigated for leaking classified information. In early 2005, the CIA asked the Justice Department to look into whether Democratic Senators Dick Durbin, Jay Rockefeller and Ron Wyden leaked details about a secret “black ops” CIA satellite program in December of 2004. That investigation is still on going, but I hear it may be wrapping up in the affirmative.

Moreover, it may be noted that Senator Rockefeller admitted back in November 2005, that he also made a trip to Syria in 2002 to discuss “The President’s intentions” reference to the upcoming invasion of Iraq. A move which I understand didn’t sit well with administration officials.

Of course Senator Rockefeller is the architect of the current Demorcatic game plan on Iraq as the infamous “Rockefeller Memo” showed.

If this information is acurate, it will also confirm the suspicions voiced here, and here after the NSA story broke that in fact Senator Rockefeller, along with recently ‘resigned” FISA Judge James Robertson – an outspoken critic of the President and the NSA program.

Stay tuned.

Clarice  Feldman   1 09 06




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39 posted on 11/25/2006 6:35:30 PM PST by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: gonzo

thanx, gonzo :)


40 posted on 11/25/2006 6:36:33 PM PST by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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