I don't see any attempts by the muddled minded middle of the roaders / moderates/ progressives here at FR"
Norm there are indeed moderates here on FR. But I have found conservatives who mostly agree with me regarding issues on both sides of this strategy debate, each declaring the other is not conservative.
As for the problems in CA, they are devastating and one could see them coming twenty years ago. I wouldn't dream of moving there now.
Just before the election, some prominent conservatives stated the size of government was no longer an issue. Whether this sentiment shall continue after the recent Republican defeat remains to be seen. I surely hope not.
strategy debate?
lol
what some do here is hardly debate. ;-)