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To: kristinn
I just posted this on another thread:

"My feelings on this (Iraqis killing each other)is much like my feelings would be about Germans and Italians killing each other during WWII. Let them at it. Yes, innocent civilians will be killed, but this is a fact of all wars, international or civil. The worst possible position to be in is standing between belligerent parties yelling "peace". You get killed and accomplish nothing.
Reconstruction only works with a totally defeated enemy. This is not the case with Iraq. We consciously decided not to fight an all out war that would have brought Iraq to it's knees. Whether this was right or wrong is now a moot point. We can't stop the hatred and we can't stop the civil war. Our only strategy should be what is in the best interest of the United States, accepting the escalating violence as a given. I want to hear our "leaders" talk about this. It might be that we take sides with the Kurds and watch the carnage as spectators, only to insure that the aftermath is not a threat to the U.S.
We must become more hard nosed and abandon our wishful utopian ideas about "forcing" others to be peaceful, freedom loving, patriots. That our Country is blessed by such people is enough for me."

Now, if you think my views are "polluting" Free Republic, so be it. But I'm getting a little tired of those who seem to be more concerned about Iraqis than they do about the U.S. and our brave troops.
Iraqis are muslim and we are infidels. They will never be our allies i.e. people who could assist or aid the U.S. Whether in the future they will ever become civilized, whether they will ever believe in religious freedom, the rights of the individual, or even the rights of women, I don't know. These things are, frankly, not a big concern of mine. I'm concerned with my family and my Country. I believe it is within our capabilities to prevent Iraq, in the future, from gaining weapons of mass destruction or from becoming a training grounds for terrorists. These past capabilities were destroyed by our forces in short order and with a minimal loss of life. We can do it again if needs be. These are the reasons we went to war, and they were good reasons. They are not the reason we are still in Iraq which has become a war of attrition with elusive and naive U.S. goals.
Our troops, who are given missions to complete, are not losing as they are successful in their missions. They have done all that could be asked from them as soldiers. It is wrong to ask from them that they quell deep seated hatred or that they civilize thugs. This should never be a measure of their success.
Call me cut and run if you like, I don't give a damn. But I do care about people who are espousing a policy that has done nothing, since our original invasion, but get U.S. troops killed for a utopian goal in the interest of foreigners not worthy of our soldiers sacrifices and not obtainable in any realistic sense of the word. These people are tearing my Country apart and getting my countrymen unnecessarily killed.

You, obviously, are an internationalist, Iraqis pain is your pain. Fine. I, and many other FReepers are nationalist. I feel the pain of my own countrymen, especially those who choose to defend me. Do you hear me? Defend me and the 300 million or so other citizens of this great Country, not foreign religious madmen.

The only thing I want to hear from our "leaders" is what their going to do for the good of the U.S. Everything else is "pollution".
289 posted on 11/24/2006 8:36:27 PM PST by Prokopton
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To: Prokopton

Do you think the US had a civil war at the end of the Revolutionary War? Did you know the American population was reduced by approximately one third, as times very violently before our Founding Fathers could finally put together our government? What do you know about the War of 1812?


450 posted on 11/24/2006 10:15:07 PM PST by GoLightly
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