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To: altura
You certainly never heard it from the lips of our President.

Do you even *remember* the administration's pre-war publicity push?

The term "greeted as liberators" is no DU spin. It's administration spin, and you know it.

1,165 posted on 11/25/2006 2:07:08 PM PST by Wormwood (Self-delusion in the face of unpleasant facts is folly - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Wormwood

No. I do not KNOW IT and neither do you!


1,169 posted on 11/25/2006 2:11:24 PM PST by altura
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To: Wormwood
March 11, Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz, in a speech to the Veterans of Foreign Wars: "The Iraqi people understand what this crisis is about. Like the people of France in the 1940s, they view us as their hoped-for liberator."

* March 16, Vice President Cheney, on NBC's Meet the Press: "I think things have gotten so bad inside Iraq, from the standpoint of the Iraqi people, my belief is we will, in fact, be greeted as liberators. . . . I think it will go relatively quickly, . . . (in) weeks rather than months." He predicted that regular Iraqi soldiers would not "put up such a struggle" and that even "significant elements of the Republican Guard . . . are likely to step aside."

http://www.usatoday.com/educate/war28-article.htm

1,177 posted on 11/25/2006 2:13:40 PM PST by KantianBurke
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To: Wormwood; altura
We WERE greeted as LIBERATORS...........because our troops DID liberate them.....

My son was in Iraq from the spring of 2003 to the spring of 2004.....in Baghdad mostly.........and he said that every single Iraqi he met loved them and was glad that we had freed him.

That's what keeps me from believing the MSM that has swallowed you up, Wormwood.

1,201 posted on 11/25/2006 2:25:51 PM PST by ohioWfan (President Bush - courageously and honorably protecting us in dangerous times, . Praise the Lord!)
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To: Wormwood

The term "greeted as liberators" is no DU spin. It's administration spin, and you know it.


Really?

Friday, November 14, 2003

THIS IS NOT A DREAM..
http://iraqthemodel.blogspot.com/2003/11/this-is-not-dream.html

Friday, November 07, 2003
بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم (In the Name of God the Most Mercifull)

http://messopotamian.blogspot.com/2003_11_01_messopotamian_archive.html

Hi everybody,

We the Iraqis, find ourselves in the midst of a great turning point in human history. This is no dramatisation, no exaggeration. But if you make even a cursory perusal of the 6000 years or so history of Messopotamia, you will find that this, strangely, is the fate of this particular spot on the earth. Let us not get bogged in the confusing and painful details at this particular time and look at the essence of the matter.

Jolted and shocked by the events of September 11, the United States of America, the greatest and most powerful politico-economic power that humanity has ever known has realised that the advanced and rich western world can no longer ignore the plight of the poorer and underdeveloped world. Those "nation states", who have totally failed the test of self determination and self goverment, and degenerated into obscurantism, sectarianism, tribalism, and all the other isms of hell, pose a mortal danger, both to the people unfortunate to live there and to the Western civilisation itself. More so since the technical complexity of the advanced world render it particularly vulnerable. The danger is real, oh so real! Anybody doubting this is living in a fools paradise.

So Action was decided upon. Action to change the situation in this twilight zone ( c.f. George Orwel - 1984 ), action to bring the values and standards enjoyed by the prosperous world to these places, by force if necessary, by example preferably. And action was taken. this in a nutshell. Let who may tear their hair off. Let them protest until their lungs puncture and shout until their throats bleed. This is it. It is like all great movements in history, characterised by singlemindedness and overpowering impulse. The old style of european imperialism, which aimed at exploitation, cheap raw materials, and keeping people backward and in a state of peasant low existance, has gone and is no longer suitable for the world. A globalised world where every body can enjoy the freedoms and benefits taken for granted by the "advanced" world. This is liberal neo-imperialism. Is it eutopean, is it unrealisable ? I don't know the answer. But the campaign is already under way.

Years ago, in my earlier youth, had I heard somebody talking like this, my hair would have stood on end, I would have been thrown into a fit of rage enough to give me heart attack. But years of suffering, years ground to dust and wasted living under a system which had hardly anything right in it, atavism which took us back to a moral state comparable to that that existed even before the reforms of Islam fifteen centuries ago, have finally brought me to this forlorn conclusion: that perhaps it is better this way - perhaps that really, salvation lies herein.

Caution to the wind. Consider this: if the U.S. tommorrow announces that anybody willing to come to its land would be given the "Green Card" immediately with no further question, how many people do you think would stand in line? Answer this question if you dare ? Why if Western values are so bad and so terrible would you find Muslim, Hindu, Buddist, and every colour and every breed standing in that hypothetical line, in their billions ?

But America cannot take in the entire humanity, so america decides to go to them instead.

Fool, romantic, freak, say what you may. Romantics have always shaped history.

Caution to the wind, caution to the wind.

"Thus Spake the Ordinary Man" - Long Live the Blogging Revolution.

Salam Alaykum


1,240 posted on 11/25/2006 2:41:48 PM PST by Valin (Rick Santorum 08)
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To: Wormwood
Do you even *remember* the administration's pre-war publicity push? The term "greeted as liberators" is no DU spin. It's administration spin, and you know it.

____________ Wed April 09, 2003 04:22 AM ET BAGHDAD (Reuters) - Hundreds of jubilant Iraqis mobbed a convoy of U.S. Marines on Wednesday, cheering, dancing and waving as American troops swept toward central Baghdad through slums and leafy suburbs from the east. Reuters correspondent Sean Maguire said crowds threw flowers at the Marines as they drove past the Martyrs' Monument, just two miles east of the central Jumhuriya Bridge over the Tigris river. "These are quite extraordinary scenes," Maguire said after a morning's drive through first the rundown sprawl of Saddam City and then more prosperous, suburbs with villas and trim lawns. The crowds, mainly young and middle-aged men, many wearing the soccer shirts of leading western clubs like Manchester United, shouted: "Hello, hello" as Marines advanced through local traffic. "No more (President) Saddam Hussein," chanted one group, waving to troops as they passed. "We love you, we love you." One young man ran alongside a Marine armored personnel carrier trying to hand over a heavy belt of ammunition. An older man made a wild kicking gesture with his foot, saying "Goodbye Saddam." http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/888727/posts

1,258 posted on 11/25/2006 2:52:32 PM PST by anglian
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