A Message to All the Cut and Run Freepers Currently Polluting Free Republic

Friday, November 24, 2006 | Kristinn

[Prokopton]

"Both Nagasaki and Hiroshima were both major Japanese Naval ports"


On the military nature of the bombing: It is doubtful that the bomb dropped on Hiroshima was intended for any of the military bases. The bomb was dropped in the center of the city, miles from either the army or navy base. Given that the destructive capability of the bomb was not fully
known, it is doubtful that the air force would have targeted the center of town if the bases were the intended targets. But few historians have ever argued that the bombing of Hiroshima was intended as a strategic, tactical
strike on a particular target.
I don't know where your getting your history from but much has been written about our bombing of all three cities in Japan and the facts are easily found.

[nopardons]

No, only conspiracy theory nut cases claim that FDR knew that Pearl Harbor was coming and allowed it to happen. It's the same peculiar mindset of people like Ward Churchill and DUers; many of whom also tell all kinds of other ridiculous lies.

Anyone who says, as you have :"let them hit us hard with a nuke.....", is a disgusting, brain dead, subhuman who doesn't understand just how moronic a statement that is. Iran won't nuke us. Korea can't, but Kim Jong Il will sell the stuff to terrorists. Terrorist, NOT a nation, would do the dirty. So WHO do we retaliate against; which nation? We won't know where the nuke came from and millions of AMERICANS would be dead.

[Old_Mil]

I think today's poll sheds light on this. There are as few people who want to stay the course as want to cut and run. It would seem that the general consensus is that we are fighting another PC police action and aren't kicking enough butts to win.

[Prokopton]

"This is, quite simply, untrue."
You just got yourself P0WN3D.

Maybe you should have read the rest of committee's report.
I can't believe you really think dropping the atomic bombs was to destroy military targets. It wasn't. They were purposely dropped on population centers for the psychological effects the death and destruction would, and did, have. BTW, I agree with the decision to drop the bombs, even purposely on population centers.

"7. Psychological Factors in Target Selection

A. It was agreed that psychological factors in the target selection were of great importance. Two aspects of this are (1) obtaining the greatest psychological effect against Japan and (2) making the initial use sufficiently spectacular for the importance of the weapon to be internationally recognized when publicity on it is released.

B. In this respect Kyoto has the advantage of the people being more highly intelligent and hence better able to appreciate the significance of the weapon. Hiroshima has the advantage of being such a size and with possible focussing from nearby mountains that a large fraction of the city may be destroyed. The Emperor's palace in Tokyo has a greater fame than any other target but is of least strategic value.

8. Use Against "Military" Objectives

A. It was agreed that for the initial use of the weapon any small and strictly military objective should be located in a much larger area subject to blast damage in order to avoid undue risks of the weapon being lost due to bad placing of the bomb."

[nopardons]

Yes, I did and he should have been banned long ago. Thankfully, I see that the troll has now, at last, been banned.

[Steve Van Doorn]

”Kim Jong Il will sell the stuff to terrorists. So WHO do we retaliate against; which nation?”

You answered your own question. Both the source of the terrorists and N Korea using your story.

[endthematrix]

I did see that. The thread is still cookin'!

[nopardons]

Terrorists know no country. So which nation would we nuke in revenge...Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria; all of them? And no, we won't turn Mecca and Medina into glass, either.

Oh, but WOULD it be N.Korea? Why not Russia, or Iran, or Pakistan?

No, I did NOT "answer" my own question. I gave a well reasoned speculation. We don't nuke nations on mere speculation.

[nopardons]

Good, the longer it "cooks", the more idiots will get banned. :-)

[Steve Van Doorn]

As you know it is very likely Iran will be the source. But we are running purely on speculation on something that has not happened yet.

[Steve Van Doorn]

I would also hope we would have a mandate to remove any country that gets in our way next time as well. Note Iran and Syria at present.

[endthematrix]

"So which nation would we nuke in revenge...Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria; all of them?... Oh, but WOULD it be N.Korea? Why not Russia, or Iran, or Pakistan? "

You forgot France...

[nopardons]

It could just as easily be Pakistan or Russia!

Speculation, now, is masturbatory silliness.

[nopardons]

"HOPE" when used in such sentences, is a useless word.

[nopardons]

No I didn't. I just kept the list to the prime suspects and France is a bit lower down on the list, is all.

[Steve Van Doorn]

What I do know is we can not win a war without the support of the people. The only way to do that is if the people believe their life or way of life is on the line.

[nopardons]

The Iraqis, or the Americans? ;^)

Even after 9/11, there were many Americans who didn't want to do ANYTHING in retaliation.

[Sam Ketcham]

Not what I read nor the concensus of all involved; guess you have secret sources of inside information.

[RasterMaster]

About time someone let the CUT & RUN crowd have it!

Bookmarked this great post!

[Sam Ketcham]

From the NY TIMES, traitorous as it is publiching classified infomation now says:
November 26, 2006
U.S. Finds Iraq Insurgency Has Funds to Sustain Itself
EXCERPT and redacted as needed...

BAGHDAD, Nov. 25 — The insurgency in Iraq is now self-sustaining financially, ...connivance by corrupt Islamic charities and other crimes ... a classified United States government report has concluded.