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Giuliani Files to Explore Run for President
N Y Times ^ | 11/22/2006 | SEWELL CHAN

Posted on 11/22/2006 11:30:13 AM PST by Sabramerican

.......On Nov. 15, Mr. Giuliani met in Manhattan with supporters who could form the core of a national fund-raising effort, including Thomas O. Hicks, the owner of the Texas Rangers; Mel M. Immergut, the chairman of the New York law firm Milbank, Tweed, Hadley & McCloy; and William E. Simon Jr., an investor who ran for governor of California in 2002.

Mr. Giuliani crisscrossed the country this year, visiting 25 states to campaign with or raise money for Republican candidates, according to his political action committee, Solutions America. But political analysts say his liberal views on social issues like abortion and gay rights could be a liability in a Republican primary.

“Everyone I’ve talked to keeps dismissing him for one reason or another: that he’s from New York, that he’s moderate, that he’s wrong on one social issue or another,” said Frank I. Luntz, a Republican pollster who worked for Mr. Giuliani in his 1993 and 1997 mayoral campaigns. “They don’t know Rudy Giuliani, and they don’t understand the electorate. The public is demanding intelligent leadership and is far more focused on personal attributes of the candidates than on specific policy issues.”

Mr. Luntz said he believed that the midterm elections, which cost Republicans control of Congress, would lead party members to consider an unorthodox candidate like Mr. Giuliani.

“There’s a great fear among the G.O.P. — and it’s a legitimate fear — that they could end up losing everything,” he said. “In times of genuine crisis, leadership matters a heck of a lot more than anything else.”

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TOPICS: Extended News; Politics/Elections; US: California; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: billsimon; election2008; giuliani; gorudygo; gungrabbingrino; norudyno; queenofrinos; rino; rudysgonnawin; sureloser
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To: freespirited

Wow, actual F A C T S to prove your point.

:-)


61 posted on 11/22/2006 9:54:19 PM PST by Howlin (Pres.Bush ought to be ashamed of himself for allowing foreign countries right on our borders!!~~Zook)
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To: Sabramerican

SAY NO TO RUDY!

I keep that sucker handy in my tagline.

62 posted on 11/22/2006 9:55:43 PM PST by Fierce Allegiance ( <h2>SAY NO TO RUDY! I know how to spell, I just type like s#it.)
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To: EternalVigilance
No surprise, since he's a stonecold Leftist just like she is.

DING DING DING!! Winner.

63 posted on 11/22/2006 9:56:56 PM PST by Fierce Allegiance ( <h2>SAY NO TO RUDY! I know how to spell, I just type like s#it.)
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To: Sabramerican

Newt


64 posted on 11/23/2006 1:50:34 AM PST by familyop
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To: liberallarry

something times nothing is still nothing.

Rudy is a self serving liberal who cant win the primaries in the red states so lets focus on a COMSERVATIVE WINNER....not a liberal drag queen.


65 posted on 11/23/2006 6:37:07 AM PST by Vaquero ("An armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: Vaquero
Rudy is a self serving liberal who cant win the primaries in the red states so lets focus on a COMSERVATIVE WINNER....not a liberal drag queen.

I disagree. He can win in the primaries and - most important - in the general election. I have no objection to a more conservative candidate who's as strong as Rudy on foreign policy, and as strong a leader. One who can win. But be realistic. Can you find one?

66 posted on 11/23/2006 7:10:18 AM PST by liberallarry
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To: liberallarry

Rudy would make a good Mayor or NYC if he could run again or Senator from NY...at that he would be a definite improvement over the two piece's of sh*t that currently hold those jobs.....I would not want him as a Governor of NY....and most definitely NOT want him as President. There are better choices and I dont believe he will pass muster enought in flyover country to win the nomination for the Republican party....I know I will not vote for him in the primary....as I did NOT vote for GWBush in the primaries but I did in both general elections....if it were Rudy vs the Hildebeaste....I would probably vote for Rudy....after holding my nose.....I dont think the country could survive a Shrillery presidency....


67 posted on 11/23/2006 7:51:04 AM PST by Vaquero ("An armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: EternalVigilance
Don't worry too much.

There is a reluctant waking-up going on on many of the blogs (like Free Republic), but it is happening.

The Rudy-ophiles are slowing getting the hint.

After claiming that Conservatives who oppose Rudy were a small minority of blogger types, they must have been STUNNED at the resistance to him that was/is open for all eyes to see in the FR poll on Rudy.

The reality of the disaster of his candidacy - and the only possible result of it being having all three Houses run by the Democrats (with Rudy atop the ticket) - will sink in further as time goes on.

The idea that Liberals, after eight years of Republican presidency and with all three Houses in sight, are going to line-up to support another Republican (Rudy) based solely on the strength of his character - to ensure four more years of GOP running of the executive branch - is sheer madness.

They will miss the 58% of Freeper-type vote who will look elsewhere.

And with a massively depressed and suppressed Conservative base and GOTV grassroots, they will see several gains for the Democrats in the House and Senate.

Like I said, once reality starts to sink-in over MSM media polls giving Rudy good early numbers, the Rudy-ophiles are going to have to reluctantly look elsewhere.

It is already slowing happening. Many are just trying to make one last-ditch effort to convince us he's not really a total, flaming left-wing, liberal activist.
68 posted on 11/24/2006 6:46:02 AM PST by TitansAFC ("Life is just one crushing defeat after another until you just wish Flanders was dead.")
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