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Passport to be required for offshore fishing
Times Daily.com ^ | November 22. 2006 8:47AM | The Associated Press

Posted on 11/22/2006 9:59:23 AM PST by chemicalman

Travelers returning from abroad aren't the only people who will need to be carrying passports beginning January eighth.

Deep-sea fishermen who go more than 60 miles into the Gulf of Mexico will need them, too.

Postal Service employee James Coleman says that last month, he issued about 40 passports a day. The previous month, he had issued 40 passports over the whole month.

It's all part of the Intelligence Reform and Terrorism Prevention Act of 2004.

Colemany says the biggest hitch has been people who don't realize they need a birth certificate with an official government stamp.

All members of a family will be required to have a passport - including infants.


TOPICS: US: Alabama; US: Louisiana; US: Mississippi; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: aliens; bordersecurity; fishing; immigration; intellegence; passport; terrorism
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Also, if anyone works on an offshore oil platform more than 60 miles off the coast have to get a passport.
1 posted on 11/22/2006 9:59:24 AM PST by chemicalman
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To: chemicalman

Your papers, please....


2 posted on 11/22/2006 10:01:42 AM PST by Lexington Green
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To: chemicalman

If you don't think terrorists affect us, think again.


3 posted on 11/22/2006 10:03:25 AM PST by Doctor Raoul (Difference between the CIA and the Free Clinic is that the Free Clinic knows how to stop a leak.)
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To: Lexington Green

I wonder if you take a cruise to Hawaii you will need to have a passport


4 posted on 11/22/2006 10:04:59 AM PST by JohnRam
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To: Lexington Green

If you can get your passport by mail, as I am hearing, and you need the ORIGINAL birth certificate, WHO would mail their original birth cert off to a stranger to do the processing??? I wouldn't and I would need a place where I could go in person and get a passport if needed.

In the midst of identity theft, the bureaucrats want me to mail my original birth certificate????? Not only no, but HE)) NO!!!!!!


5 posted on 11/22/2006 10:06:23 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: chemicalman

That's really great. I can't think of an environment more conducive to losing a passport.


6 posted on 11/22/2006 10:06:39 AM PST by Paleo Conservative (Karl Rove isn't magnificent.)
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To: chemicalman

But no picture ID will be required to vote.


7 posted on 11/22/2006 10:08:04 AM PST by Paleo Conservative (Karl Rove isn't magnificent.)
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To: chemicalman

From some quick googling, I believe this article may be in very serious error regarding offshore fishing.


8 posted on 11/22/2006 10:08:16 AM PST by Strategerist
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"I wonder if you take a cruise to Hawaii you will need to have a passport"

Yes, or if you drive to Alaska. Perhaps even if you try to leave the state of Mass.


9 posted on 11/22/2006 10:09:22 AM PST by driftdiver
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To: chemicalman

How come the illegals crossing over our borders don't require a passport?


10 posted on 11/22/2006 10:10:07 AM PST by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: JohnRam; BIGLOOK
I wonder if you take a cruise to Hawaii you will need to have a passport

Probably John, but Hawaii will stamp a visitors Visa in your Passport on arrival, you won't be required to apply in advance for a Visa at one of their consulates.

Jack, can you confirm?

11 posted on 11/22/2006 10:11:12 AM PST by ASA Vet (The WOT should have been over on 9/12/01.)
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To: chemicalman

Once you're 12 miles offshore, you've left the country. It's always been that way, and yes, you're subject to customs search even though you may not have landed anywhere. This isn't anything new.

I'd carry a passport anyway, if only for the chance of landing somewhere other than I'd originally planned.


12 posted on 11/22/2006 10:11:15 AM PST by Ramius
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I'm pretty convinced this rather strange, and very short, article is completely wrong regarding offshore fishing and returning and needing a passport.


13 posted on 11/22/2006 10:15:09 AM PST by Strategerist
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To: Strategerist

I think you're right about there being no passport requirement, just for crossing the border and returning.

My only point was that it ~is~ a border crossing, and while they don't always use it, customs and the CG do have the authority to conduct a full on border search. For a vessel that hasn't landed in a foreign country, I don't think they have the same obligation to visit customs before returning home.


14 posted on 11/22/2006 10:19:11 AM PST by Ramius
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To: chemicalman

Still better than that 200-green-lights-per-month max law.

"Well, I would like to go out today, although I've already used up all my green lights this month."


15 posted on 11/22/2006 10:20:21 AM PST by jdm
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To: Ramius

One extremely fishing thing about the article (besides not citing any sources) is that "60 miles" is COMPLETELY meaningless from a legal standpoint.

Our territorial waters extend out 12 miles - then there's a "contiguous zone" out to 24 miles, and then the next meaningful distance is the 200 mile EEZ.

There's no meaningful border or boundary 60 miles offshore at all.


16 posted on 11/22/2006 10:24:06 AM PST by Strategerist
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To: ridesthemiles

You can order an official certified copy of your birth certificate off the internet (or anyone else's for that matter) if you know date of birth, place of birth, father's full name and mother's full maiden name.


17 posted on 11/22/2006 10:24:52 AM PST by CholeraJoe (Spork weasels ain't afraid of nuthin' but running out of sardines.)
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To: chemicalman

So you don't have a passport?! Big deal. It's an inconvenience. Just land in Mexico and walk across the border. Thousands of people do it every day. They'll never stop that from happening.


18 posted on 11/22/2006 10:25:09 AM PST by brownsfan (It's not a war on terror... it's a war with islam.)
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To: Strategerist
I also think the article is off. Of course, it is the AP.
The State department don't mention "fishing trips". Just travel between countries. US Dept. of State Travel
I would think if you have your boat papers, license, and any other legal papers that you are supposed to have when fishing, you shouldn't need a passport.

Word of mouth spreading from offshore workers are saying that you do need one if working more than 60 miles offshore. Don't know if it's true or not.

19 posted on 11/22/2006 10:25:24 AM PST by chemicalman (Kerry was wrong. The uneducated are not stuck in Iraq. Instead, they voted for Democrats yesterday.)
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To: chemicalman

"Passport, please!"


20 posted on 11/22/2006 10:26:35 AM PST by Revolting cat! (Who invented rock and roll hiccups?)
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