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Minimum Wage Ripples ( How the minimum wage hurts my daughter's chances of working )
NewsMax ^ | 11/21/2006 | Michael Arnold Glueck, M.D., and Robert J. Cihak

Posted on 11/22/2006 9:08:54 AM PST by SirLinksalot

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1 posted on 11/22/2006 9:08:57 AM PST by SirLinksalot
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You're going up against the most elemental attribute of human nature. The desire to stick it to the boss.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

2 posted on 11/22/2006 9:13:16 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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The desire to stick it to the boss.

What if by sticking it to the boss, you end up sticking it to more poor people who otherwise would have jobs ?
3 posted on 11/22/2006 9:14:55 AM PST by SirLinksalot
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To: SirLinksalot

The minimum wage is simply fascism by another name. Government has no business dictating wages.


4 posted on 11/22/2006 9:16:02 AM PST by rottndog (WOOF!!!)
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To: SirLinksalot
You make a good point and people vote partly to raise the minimum wage out of envy. Well also because they want to see people have enough take home pay to have a good quality of life. But as the article points out, every wage increase comes with a price that's not always apparent to politicians and voters.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

5 posted on 11/22/2006 9:18:36 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: SirLinksalot
Many years ago now, I hired an employment consultant to try to find a job for her. Without Ruth even appearing for an interview, she did get one offer of a job retrieving shopping carts from a shopping center parking lot. But because she is prone to wander off on her own, she needs 24-hour supervision; she wouldn't be safe out in a parking lot on her own.

Sounds like she needs babysitter, not a job.

6 posted on 11/22/2006 9:21:59 AM PST by VillageDamien
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To: SirLinksalot

But think of all the illegals who now have job opportunities open to them.

Who will pay these higher wages when the illegals will do it for less? No social security, no workman's compensation, no problemo.


7 posted on 11/22/2006 9:23:23 AM PST by ladyjane
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To: VillageDamien
There are a lot of developmentally disabled adults with limited intelligence. That's no reason to deny them human dignity by cutting off their opportunities to achieve their full potential. Liberals look at them as victims. Conservatives look at them as human beings who deserve a chance to succeed.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

8 posted on 11/22/2006 9:25:40 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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Yes, but I don't know too many Conservatives that would have their adult daughter with a 3 to 4 year old level working. I honestly didn't know that was legal even more so ethical.

Would you want a 4 year old kid working in a workshop?
9 posted on 11/22/2006 9:30:13 AM PST by FLOutdoorsman
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No. But its a dilemma parents face since they are mortal. Who will look after our child when we're gone?

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

10 posted on 11/22/2006 9:33:04 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: SirLinksalot

Just hire an illegal and be done with it!


Sheeeeesh.


11 posted on 11/22/2006 9:38:15 AM PST by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: VillageDamien

Yes, she does, but as a human being she also derives meaning from being able to contribute, and she wants to contribute at whatever value she can, and the government is preventing that by artificially defining the value of the least capable contributer.


12 posted on 11/22/2006 9:38:51 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: SirLinksalot

Yesterday Rush quoted a source that said the average FAMILY income of those earning the min. wage, is $49,000. How many adults cannot fathom what he said? Ans: Too many!


13 posted on 11/22/2006 9:44:31 AM PST by Waco
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You, sir or madam, are one cold, heartless son-of-a-bitch. May you never have a son or daughter with this kind of disability; you obviously do not have the common sense required to raise any child. On behalf of the author of the piece, I accept your apology.


14 posted on 11/22/2006 9:53:08 AM PST by thelastvirgil (Lest ye put all your faith in the government to provide for you, check their track record.)
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To: SirLinksalot

The problem with the minimum wage issue is simple. Arguments against it are complicated, lengthy and usually correct, while arguments for it are short and filled with emotional appeal. I don't have the statistics, but a large majority of Americans probably support minimum wage laws.


15 posted on 11/22/2006 9:54:44 AM PST by CitizenUSA
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What is “Minimum Wage?”

Looked at realistically, it is a starting wage. It allows the employer to evaluate the employee while he/she learns the job skills necessary to be worth more. If the employee is successful during the evaluation and proves their value, they have a job and probably a raise. If they don’t prove their value they are out the door (if it is a “Right to Work” state).

If the “Minimum Wage” is increased, few employers will be willing to give someone a chance because of the economics of the situation. The “Minimum Wage” should not be looked at as a long time living wage because it isn’t. The “Minimum Wage” that many think is fair is based on what they think they would start at with their job skills and experience. In reality, if you have skills and experience you won’t be starting at the “Minimum Wage.”

The case of the mentally disabled person discussed in the article is unfortunate, but a distraction to the real issue of "Minimum Wage.

16 posted on 11/22/2006 10:11:55 AM PST by WildBill2275 (The Second Amendment guarantees all of your other rights.)
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To: Waco

I have my hand up over here.
Pure numbers lead me to ask, how can that be ?
without adding in EIC\Food Stamps etc...


17 posted on 11/22/2006 10:16:34 AM PST by stylin19a ("Klaatu Barada Nikto")
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To: WildBill2275

good point. most of the so-called minimum wage jobs(at least here in MN) are held by teens and college kids and most often are part-time and/or seasonal.


18 posted on 11/22/2006 10:23:44 AM PST by Rakkasan1 ((Illegal immigrants are just undocumented friends you haven't met yet!))
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To: CitizenUSA

One of the minimum wage ripples is inflation. Which negates any proposed benefit. In addition to there be exemptions to any minimum wage. I argue that a government in order to protect its citizens should establish a criteria what costs of living should be included in establishing a minimum wage formula and that formula be followed by our individual states which set the ammount. Not a one size fits all regulated dollar ammount set by the government in Washington.
http://www.theusmat.com


19 posted on 11/22/2006 10:27:41 AM PST by mosesdapoet
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To: SirLinksalot

Good article. Zoning laws and licensing laws hurt the poor, too.


20 posted on 11/22/2006 11:11:04 AM PST by secretagent ((Trying on the neoconservative hat now))
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