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To: Irish_Thatcherite
I think this thread is going to be the classical Social/Christian Conservatism vs. Libertarian Conservatism debate

There is no such thing as "Libertarian Conservatism." There are Libertarian Rockafeller Republicans, and there are Conservative Goldwater Republicans, but Libertarians and Conservatives are two different animals witin the same party. When Reagan was a Libertarian Governor of California he signed an abortion bill into law and said he admired libertarians. When he embraced Goldwater's values, he dramatically strengthened the the Federal War On Drugs, and opposed abortion. A lot of liberaltarians like to hang out at this site, and generally they are ok, because they are typically strong on National Security issues, but let's be very clear about the fact that Libertarianism and Conservatism are mutually exclusive political philosophies.

65 posted on 11/21/2006 2:36:13 PM PST by presidio9 (Tagline Censored)
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To: presidio9
When Reagan was a Libertarian Governor of California he signed an abortion bill into law and said he admired libertarians.

Well, I certainly don't understand why many libertarians are pro-abortion - it is a crime against the person afterall!

Just an idea that entered my head when seeing personal freedom/moral order debates here - I just think common ground can be found between the two perspectives.

66 posted on 11/21/2006 2:42:17 PM PST by Irish_Thatcherite (A vote for Bertie Ahern is a vote for Gerry Adams!|What if I lecture Americans about America?)
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To: presidio9
When he embraced Goldwater's values, he dramatically strengthened the the Federal War On Drugs, and opposed abortion.

Goldwater was notoriously pro-abortion. His wife was a long-time high muckety-muck in Planned Parenthood of Arizona, IIRC.

67 posted on 11/21/2006 2:48:18 PM PST by Campion ("I am so tired of you, liberal church in America" -- Mother Angelica, 1993)
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To: presidio9
There are Libertarian Rockafeller Republicans, and there are Conservative Goldwater Republicans,

Rockefeller Republicans such as the Bushes favor New Deal programs, welfare, and civil rights—usually promising to run them more efficiently than the Democrats.

This has little to do with Libertarianism.

191 posted on 11/24/2006 4:09:54 PM PST by AdamSelene235 (Truth has become so rare and precious she is always attended to by a bodyguard of lies.)
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