37 percent of U.S. births out of wedlock

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061121/ap_on_re_us/unmarried_births ^ | 3 minutes ago | MIKE STOBBE, AP Medical Writer

[durasell]

You're panicking. Many of the cities are thriving. Many people lead international lives that take them from one city to another around the globe. For those with the proper skill sets, the options are nearly unlimited.

[GovernmentShrinker]

It is not up to the government to ensure that people have "better" lives, or to define what qualifies as "better". Objectively speaking, people have better lives (at least longer and physically healthier) if they never smoke, never overeat, exercise regularly, and get a minimum of 8 hours sleep every night. Throw in never drink alcohol or use mindaltering recreational drugs, and you'd eliminate about 90% of unwanted pregnancies, in addition to the health benefits to the non-using adult. However, it is not the proper role of government to dole out privileges and penalties to citizens based on their degree of compliance with those ingredients of the recipe for "better" living.

[WatchingInAmazement]

Many of the cities are thriving.

Would that explain the uptick in crime rates?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1742804/posts?page=21

Eighteen Cities, Areas Picked for Crime Study WASHINGTON -- The government selected 18 cities and sprawling suburban regions Wednesday to study for clues on why homicides and other violent crimes are on the rise nationally.

The Justice Department study comes after FBI data in September showed violent criminal activity -- including rape, murder, robbery and aggravated assault -- rising by 2.2 percent from last year. That marked the first increase in violent crimes since 2001.

Attorney General Alberto Gonzales announced the study at a Boston meeting last month with police chiefs and other law enforcement officials. It will be rolled out in three phases: looking at crime increases in cities, analyzing those results for any trends, and identifying federal programs that can help. It was not clear whether more federal funding will be available for cities, but Justice Department officials said that "new initiatives" could be created, if necessary.

The cities and regions are: Atlanta; Boston; metropolitan Charlotte, N.C.; Colorado Springs, Colo.; Columbus, Ohio; Hartford, Conn.; Houston; Jersey City, N.J.; metropolitan Kansas City, Mo.; Miami; Minneapolis-St. Paul; Nashville, Tenn.; Oklahoma City; Omaha, Neb.; Portland, Ore.; San Bernardino County, Calif.; San Diego; and the cities constituting the Tidewater, Va., area.

[WorkingClassFilth]

Well, like a lot of things under the MSM radar, it needs to be discussed and brought into the open - with or without the help of cultural gatekeepers. That is when things begin to change because of popular perceptions/support. You might have noticed Bill Cosby trying to do just this and being ignored or excoriated. One clear item that could stand a good airing is the use of race whores to shill for the leftist plantation. Without open and free dialogue on issues that make people uncomfortable, we're going to get nowhere in addressing the problems. As far as I am concerned, racism is minor issue in this day and age - well, except for the PC police and their toadies.

Q: What is to be gained by ignoring the actual nature of these problems or concealing the demographics?
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[Khankrumthebulgar]

We are seeing the disintegration of our Republic subsidized with our Dollars. The FemNags and their Big Government pals are sure to give amnesty to all of these illegals. Further eroding our Sovereignty and our Laws already under assult. Mexico doesn't tolerate this crap in their Country. Why should we?

[WorkingClassFilth]

We do, indeed, have a lot of problems facing us. First, however, there is a need to inform and educate people. If it takes an end run around the MSM to bring problems to people's attention, then that is what we need to do. Addressing problems always makes some uncomfortable, but without that critical first step, no solutions will be found - only furthering of the status quo.

[durasell]

Would that explain the uptick in crime rates?





A lack of jobs for the unskilled or semi-skilled. In any event, there are other indicators of thriving cities than crime rates.

[DragonflyX]

******Also consider however that many boys stay boys instead of desiring to be men. Too many see nothing wrong with living in mom and dad's basement playing video games at 25 years old. Would any decent woman be attracted to that? There is a general delaying of adulthood that seems to get worse with each generation*******

Many women aren't done partying with ex-cons and meth cooks until around age 30 when they start looking for a stable nice guy to buy them a house. Those guys playing video games would do well to keep on playing and saving for an early retirement so when they are 45 they can move to a man-friendly country and marry.

[cowdog77]

"... there will always be assholes..." I will teach her that even though you might sin there's always redemption from God...." Shame on you for your ugly post!
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Ummm, are you claiming to know God? Doesn't sound like it from your post.

[justche]

are you denying there are assholes?

[derllak]

And that's so sad, because it's the children who suffer for it.

[Clemenza]

We have plenty of these illegitimate foundlings in my area, the vast majority of whom are to the native-born welfare class.

Of course, the "immigration is everything crowd seeks to link EVER FRIGGIN' ISSUE to illegal immigration.

Daniel Patrick Moynihan published a controversial journal article on this subject 40 years ago, LONG before illegal immigration became such an obsessive issue.

[Clemenza]

1. Real estate in New York City is considerably more expensive than in suburbia. A one bedroom apartment in a prewar building in Bedford Stuyvesant (aka the ghetto) will run you AT LEAST $1500, while an apartment in exurban Flemington, NJ would cost you $800.

2. Most of the crime is concentrated in a few areas in the OUTER boroughs, not in the thriving areas.

[Clemenza]

Happy New Year, from Princeton.

[durasell]

Happy New Year from the Big Apple.

[Clemenza]

Central New Jersey. I live in a lovely town between Princeton and Trenton (where said illegitimate foundlings exist in droves).

[Drango]

Pelosi's fault.

[dforest]

Actually, I agree with that. If these people are here illegally, then a child born here to someone who is illegal should not be considered a citizen. It would stop a lot of it.

Of course, if the people are here legally have a kid, that would make them a citizen.

[Fishrrman]

WorkingClassFilth [great nic!] writes:
Obviously, we have a problem in black America and that is where the greatest problem lies. Black America is looking at nearly 75% illegitimacy and that is a problem for us all that will only get worse if we avoid the facts and play some phony PC game where we ignore the monstrous disorder in American under classes.

Let me ask a few rhetorical questions.

Once the rate of illegitimacy has so tipped (hmmm, not "tipped", but TOPPLED) so far to one side, how does one propose to _ever_ "restore the norms" in black communities?

With a rap (add a "c" to the front of that and you have my musical assessment) culture that glories ho's, guns, brutality, and outright murder - not to mention a culture that considers any attempt to live like the white majority as "acting white", what ARE "the norms of black communities" these days?

Indeed, we have a black culture in which being born illegitmately _IS_ "the norm" now. It is traditional marriage which seems outmoded and out-of-place there.

Is there anyone reading this posting that honestly expects that to change back to something resembling conservative norms? (For the record, I do not.)

If there is, just how do you realistically propose to do that?

- John