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Lebanese minister assassinated in attack on convoy
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Posted on 11/21/2006 6:35:31 AM PST by gondramB

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To: John Lenin

Sadly, you're right.

I really wish John Howard was running a superpower.


141 posted on 11/21/2006 7:50:40 PM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
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To: txrangerette
The UN has been investigating the incident(cough).

Oh that's reassuring. I feel much better knowing that a body like the UN is going to get to the bottom of this. /sarcasm off

142 posted on 11/21/2006 8:00:42 PM PST by rdl6989
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To: gondramB

We should be bombing Iran into oblivion commencing last year.


143 posted on 11/21/2006 9:10:47 PM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Democracy: The worst form of government, except for all the others.)
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To: b4its2late
Looks like the Hezbos are startinging thier takeover.

Right after the November elections. Coincidence?

144 posted on 11/21/2006 9:16:14 PM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Democracy: The worst form of government, except for all the others.)
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham
>>We should be bombing Iran into oblivion commencing last year.<<

1. I don't believe you could get majority support for even attacking military targets in Iran.

2. When I suggested we should at least be fighting along with Isreal against Hezbollah when Hezbollah was actively shooting missiles into Israeli cities I got the feeling there wasn't even majority support among conservatives, much less Americans.

3. Its really not clear we have the spare ground troops for the ground war that would follow or the escalation that would ensue in Iraq.

In short, I don't think we can attack Iran without a clear imminent threat of either a nuclear attack by them somewhere or an Iranian invasion of Iraq or Israel.
145 posted on 11/22/2006 1:44:43 AM PST by gondramB (It wasn't raining when Noah built the ark.)
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To: gondramB

ah the good old days of indiscriminate carpet bombing. Army need to get back to basics


146 posted on 11/22/2006 1:54:14 AM PST by Cinnamon
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To: milwguy

Very true. Blaming Israel and the US has become cliche. Never mind the fact that this cult wants us and everything we stand for destroyed. That isn't even worthy of a footnote.

I believe the French actually stated that they will NOT disarm Hezbollah, adn they will not put the thousands of troops they promised there until their safety is guaranteed. Sad.

What's the difference between 10 Frnech soldiers and 10,000? Less POW's.


147 posted on 11/22/2006 3:14:42 AM PST by albyjimc2 (If dying's asked of me, I'll bear that cross with honor, cause freedom don't come free...)
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham
Right after the November elections. Coincidence?

They won a majority in both houses of Congress, did they not ?

Axis of Evil

148 posted on 11/22/2006 4:27:12 AM PST by af_vet_1981 (Waiting for Samson)
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To: Perdogg

Pierre Gemayel is the name of the elected leader who yesterday was assassinated in Lebanon. Bashir was his uncle who was assassinated 25 years ago. Are you saying Bashir's father was also named Pierre? If so, I don't see the signifigance of that fact. I thought we were discussing the assassinated Pierre Gemayel from yesterday's incident.




149 posted on 11/22/2006 5:08:21 AM PST by txrangerette ("We are fighting al-Qaeda, NOT Aunt Sadie"...Dick Cheney commenting on the wiretaps!!)
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham

Yep. I guess they figure we won't do anything now.


150 posted on 11/22/2006 6:22:37 AM PST by b4its2late (Liberalism is a hollow log and a mental disorder.)
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To: 2banana

The libs and lefties will be on the side of the Islamofascists - one irony after another. They are our Fifth Column.


151 posted on 11/22/2006 6:23:26 AM PST by juliej
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To: AliVeritas

Good thing we made the Israeli's leave! not


152 posted on 11/22/2006 11:04:18 AM PST by HonestConservative (Snowflake, Levinite and eeevildooer, not necessarily in that order.)
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To: gondramB

Find Hezbollah warriors and kill every last one of them. Lebanon deserves better. Hell, EVERYONE deserves better.


153 posted on 11/22/2006 5:52:59 PM PST by supremedoctrine ("Talent hits a target no one else can hit, genius hits a target no one else can see"--Schopenhauer)
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To: txrangerette; Perdogg
President-elect Bashir Gamayel was killed in 1982 in a bombing of Kateb Party hq by a Syrian agent. (The guy was supposedly independent, but the Syrians let him out of jail in 1990 when the took over!)
Bashir's older brother is Amin, who became president. Their father, the founder of the Kateb party was also named Pierre Gemayel. The assassinated minister, Pierre Amin Gemayel, is named for his grandfather.
154 posted on 11/22/2006 6:05:03 PM PST by rmlew (Having slit their throats may the conservatives who voted for Casey choke slowly on their blood.)
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To: gondramB
Lebanon on the Brink of Civil War (3)

To view this Special Dispatch in HTML, visit: http://www.memri.org/bin/opener_latest.cgi?ID=IA30206 .

By H. Varulkar


A group calling themselves "Fighters for the Unity of Al-Sham (Greater Syria) and its Liberty" took responsibility for the assassination in a communiqué that read: "Allah granted us success today as well, in the assassination of the agent Pierre Gemayel, one of those who unceasingly spouted their venom against Syria and against the Resistance (i.e. Hizbullah), shamelessly and without any trepidation. This is the fate of the traitors, agents, and hired hands who do no hesitate to belittle Lebanon's unity, liberty, integrity, and future for the sake of the enemy's interests. All of those who harm those people who have paid the steep price for the Arabs and for Lebanon - may their voices be silent and may their mouths be mute. We crossed out this agent [Pierre Gemayel] from the list of our targets, and sooner or later we will pay the rest of the agents their due..."(1)

(1) Al-Nahar (Lebanon), November 22, 2006.
155 posted on 11/22/2006 11:51:26 PM PST by AdmSmith
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more from the same source:

Sa'd Al-Hariri: Hizbullah, Amal, Syria, and Iran Want to Topple the Government

In an interview with the Al-Jazeera English-language satellite station, the head of the Al-Mustaqbal faction Sa'd Al-Hariri said that the current crisis was caused because Hizbullah received orders from elements outside of Lebanon not to allow, under any circumstances, the establishment of an international tribunal. According to him, the alliance of Hizbullah, Amal, Syria, and Iran wants to topple the government and rule Lebanon: "It is obvious that when there is a political party that is funded entirely by [elements] outside of the country [i.e. Hizbullah], then it is run entirely by [elements] outside of the country."

Concerning the current crisis in the government and the resignation of the Shi'ite ministers, he said: "The orders and the decisions came from [elements] outside [of Lebanon], and these orders and decisions lay down that it is forbidden [to allow] the establishment of an international tribunal and that the murderers of Rafiq Al-Hariri, Jubran Tweini, Samir Qasir, and George Hawi must be defended at all costs... The truth is that if there are any civil disturbances whatsoever, this will not be because of the Lebanese [but rather because of foreign intervention]... Today it has become clear that the alliance between Hizbullah, Amal, Syria, and Iran wants to topple the Al-Siniora government, to foil the [establishment] of an international tribunal [for the assassination of Rafiq Al-Hariri], [to prevent the implementation of] Resolution 1701... They want to rule the country."(10)


156 posted on 11/23/2006 12:00:02 AM PST by AdmSmith
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Sunni Sheikh Attacks Hizbullah

The Lebanese daily Al-Mustaqbal published an article by the Sunni Sheikh Sa'id Harmush, who expressed criticism of Hizbullah members' behavior, which in his opinion is contrary to Islam: "...Hizbullah [members] claim [that they are acting in the name of] Islam, but they are doing the exact opposite of Islam! In the past they left in Beirut black fingerprints, in every home and neighborhood. Roving bands of [Hizbullah members] took over property belonging to 'the Sunni brothers', as they call them - houses, land, and shops. Then they started with acts of robbery, slaughter, humiliation, and expulsion, much more than the Jews have done anywhere [in the world]...

"To this day many areas in Lebanon (like Sidon, Tyre, and other areas) are trying to deal with this arbitrariness and arrogance. If this is so, then what Islam are they talking about[?] We are not talking about [unknown things that occurred] in the course of the [last] war - the attacks and assaults that were carried out during the war, from the south up to Beirut. At the time that Zionist planes destroyed some of the areas in Beirut, some of the roving bands [of Hizbullah members] took over private and public lands, and built houses there, as though these lands were spoils of war! So what Islam are they talking about?!

"Today Sheikh Naim Qassem comes to us with the demand that the [Shi'ite] community, or Hizbullah, be partners in government decisions and in building Lebanon... This at a time that Shi'ite ministers left the government in order to exert influence [not to establish] a tribunal that is supposed to punish the criminals who assassinated many Lebanese brothers. So how can they ask to be partners?!...

"You want the government to grant legitimacy to your lies, and if not, then [you accuse it] of collaboration [with Israel]..."(13)


157 posted on 11/23/2006 12:01:23 AM PST by AdmSmith
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