Europeans ‘would accept climate change curbs’ (90% believe humans cause "Global Warming")

Financial Times ^ | 11/19/06 | Ed Crooks

[rockinqsranch]

"Quick! Dam up the Chunnel before it infects the sane Brits."

The Brits are hardly sane on this. It is the Brits that are pushing this Global Warming nonsense. Germany and the others historically are actually the followers of the Brits lead on the topic.

[middie]

Are the two mutually exclusive?

[Eric in the Ozarks]

The UK has. But its achievement was based on the industrial closings of decades ago...

[cogitator]

I said put the food waste in the garbage can it will be sent to a landfill and turned into dirt.

I may be wrong on this, but I think that garbage in a landfill degrades very slowly. Basically, it just sits there very slowly decomposing. Composting speeds the process up significantly.

This is kind of an old article, but it has what I was looking for. It's about a researcher that digs into landfills researching what people throw away:

Garbology

"Every three foot bucket of trash produces 10 to 30 readable newspapers, which does make it east for Rathje to date materials. In 15 landfill digs, Rathje said he has recovered 2,425 datable, readable newspapers. ... They have also recovered lettuce that was thrown out in 1991, a kaiser roll from 1981 and an 18-year-old ear of corn. Hot dogs often last 15 years."

[Constitutions Grandchild]

Just remember that it was the Europeans who came up with the "flat world" theory. Prior to that, as far back as the Psalms, the world was described as a sphere. I don't think they are any more capable today than they were in the 15th century. They demonized anyone who "bucked" the popular opinion.

Others on this thread are absolutely correct, the planet goes through cycles warming and cooling (apparently so does the galaxy and the sun).

[cogitator]

I maintain that the biggest threat to climate change is and will always be Volcanic eruptions. That scenario will put ten thousand times the pollution into the air than any vehicle emission ever can.

Volcanoes aren't a significant source of greenhouse gases. Annually, SO2 (sulfur dioxide) emissions from volcanoes are about 1/4 of human emissions.

[Cobra64]

dirt does not include mineral matter?

First, fix your punctuation. To answer your question, it depends on the dirt. The last time I looked, rotting vegetables don't morph into ground up rocks.

[boop]

Uh, so the Europeans will accept $10 per gallon gas and 25% unemployment, then?

[Tolerance Sucks Rocks]

And what is CO2 from volcanoes? About 1 percent of human emissions?

[taxed2death]

SUN: The Sun’s magnetic field is over 230 percent stronger now than it was at the beginning of the 1900s, and its overall energetic activity has sizably increased, creating a frenzy of activity that continues to embarrass NASA’s official predictions.

VENUS: Venus is now glowing in the dark, as is Jupiter’s moon Io.

EARTH: In the last 30 years, Earth’s icecaps have thinned out by as much as 40 percent. Quite inexplicably, just since 1997 the structure of the Earth has shifted from being slightly more egg-shaped, or elongated at the poles, to more pumpkin-shaped, or flattened at the poles. No one at NASA has even bothered to try to explain this yet. Link to full article at NASA.

http://www.gsfc.nasa.gov/topstory/20020801gravityfield.html

MARS: The icecaps of Mars noticeably melted just within one year, causing 50-percent changes in surface features. Atmospheric density had risen by 200 percent above previous observations as of 1997.

JUPITER: Jupiter has become so highly energized that it is now surrounded by a visibly glowing donut tube of energy in the path of the moon Io. The size of Jupiter’s magnetic field has more than doubled since 1992.

SATURN: Saturn’s polar regions have been noticeably brightening, and its magnetic field strength increasing.

URANUS: According to NASA’s Voyager II space probe, Uranus and Neptune both appear to have had recent magnetic pole shifts – 60 degrees for Uranus and 50 for Neptune.

NEPTUNE: Neptune has become 40 percent brighter in infrared since 1996, and is fully 100-percent brighter in certain areas. Also, Neptune’s moon Triton has had a “very large percentage increase” in atmospheric pressure and temperature, comparable to a 22-degree Fahrenheit increase on Earth.

PLUTO: As of September 2002, Pluto has experienced a 300-percent increase in its atmospheric pressure in the last 14 years, while also becoming noticeably darker in color.

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Nope. I'm convinced it all has to do with cow farts.

We need to mass produce bovine butt plugs and FAST.

[americanbychoice2]

You may want to re educate yourself on the dangers of Volcanos.

NASA's ozone monitoring instrument (OMI) onboard the Aura satellite detected SO2 emissions from the vicinity of Home Reef beginning on 8 August . . .. Emissions appear to have peaked sometime on 8-9 August, indicated by the large SO2 cloud detected east of Tonga on 9 August. The total SO2 mass detected by OMI on 9 August was ~25 kilotons. The emission episode was over by 15 August. HYSPLIT forward trajectories indicate that the SO2 released on 8 August may have reached altitudes of 5 km or more. To our knowledge this is the first example of satellite detection of emissions from a submarine volcano. (SI/uSGS GVP

another samll one

During 24-31 March, activity at Santa Ana decreased to low levels in comparison to the previous 4 months of moderate activity. During the report period, seismicity was at relatively low levels, steam plumes occasionally rose ~200 m above the volcano (or 8,400 ft a.s.l.), and the daily sulfur-dioxide flux was between 500 and 1,000 metric tons. The Alert Level remained at red, the highest level, within 5 km of the volcano's summit crater.

Sources: Servicio Nacional de Estudios Territoriales (SNET)- "Report provided courtesy of the Smithsonian's Global Volcanism Program and the US Geological Survey's Volcano Hazards Program."

Remeber the depression and the dust bowls? (maybe not:))

I believe the volcanos name was tamara, it left Africa, Europe and the US without much of a harvest for over 3 years. It decreased temperatures by 4 degrees celcius on average.
Try to watch that program about Yellowstone. It is amazing if that one were to erupt, we wouldn't hVE TO WORRY ABOUT THE WORLD OVERPOPULATING.
SORRY, THAT SHOUND BE WHEN, NOT IF

[SF Republican]

What was my punctuation error?

[SF Republican]

I do not believe dirt is simply ground up rocks, it includes a great deal more composition than that.

[JMJJR]

"Chesterton was right (if apocryphal) - once people stop believing in God, they don't start believing in nothing, they start believing in ANYTHING.
"

Love that quote !!

[Robert A Cook PE]

Good.

8<)

See, if we put all of our waste in landfills, then our grandchildren know where to go look for stuff to re-cycle when/if they find out it will actually PAY to re-cycle certain things.

Or avoid other things, if that's what they find. Sure is easier to "mine" a landfill filled with actual alloys than look all the way across a desert fer rocks and minerals combined with tens of billions of lbs of useless waste..

[cogitator]

And what is CO2 from volcanoes? About 1 percent of human emissions?

According to the source I quote all the time, less than that -- 0.67%.

[cogitator]

Sure is easier to "mine" a landfill filled with actual alloys than look all the way across a desert fer rocks and minerals combined with tens of billions of lbs of useless waste..

I hit some links about landfill mining while trying to find that thing about persistence in a landfill. Landfill mining is an idea whose time will come.

[cogitator]

You may want to re educate yourself on the dangers of Volcanos.

That's probably not necessary.

As I noted, SO2 emissions from volcanoes are, on average, annually, about 1/4 of human emissions. A large eruption like Pinatubo can increase this for a given year, but not something as small as Home Reef. CO2 is not SO2.

Tambora's immense eruption was in 1815; the "year without a summer" was in 1816. The Dust Bowls were in the 1930s, so there was no relationship to the Tambora eruption.

I agree that a full-scale Yellowstone eruption would have the potential to disrupt human civilization significantly. The odds of it happening tomorrow vs. 10,000 years from now, or anytime in between, are about the same.

[Westbrook]

Euro-peons have accepted the dull, rusty blade of Mohammet at their collective throat.

They'll accept anything.

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[Continental Soldier]

Has science now become a matter of opinion and consensus?