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To: Colofornian

While I could have fun with your Misspelling of Pay for Pray, I won’t

>>There are two kinds of people in this: Those who teach to pay only to the Father; and
>>those who teach to pray to God as Father God as Son in the Holy Spirit. Mormons
>>are the first, failing the Book of Mormon injunction and precedent found in 3 Nephi
>>19:17-26:
>>"v. 18: "and they did pray unto Jesus." v. 24: "disciples...did still continue, without
>>ceasing to pray him." v. 25: "Jesus blessed them as they did pray unto him." v. 26:
>>"And Jesus said unto them: pray on, nevertheless, they did not cease to pray."

They prayed to Jesus because he was physically there.

Some folks have ceased to pray to Jesus.

We pray to God the Father because Jesus did and gave all the Glory to him. So, so do we. If we err in this it is a small thing compared to those who do not pray to either, yet we stand condemned beside the heathen in your eyes and by your statements.


432 posted on 11/20/2006 6:45:49 PM PST by DelphiUser ("You can lead a man to knowledge, but you can't make him think")
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To: DelphiUser
We pray to God the Father because Jesus did and gave all the Glory to him

Yes. While on earth, Jesus gave all the glory to the Father. But Jesus has a share in that glory now:

"Father, the time has come. Glorify your Son, that Your Son may glorify you...And now, Father, glorify me in your presence with the glory I had with you before the world began." (John 17:1,5)

So, now what's your excuse? (BTW, this "glory" isn't new to Jesus...he just laid it down for a 33-year span within the context of eternity...note the words, "the glory I had with you before the world began." Oops, there goes the man-become-god theory...it's rather the God-become-man Biblical truth).

439 posted on 11/20/2006 7:07:46 PM PST by Colofornian
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To: DelphiUser
yet we stand condemned beside the heathen in your eyes and by your statements.

If you study church history, you will note that it was the "heathen"--not the godly folks--who were polytheists (gods everywhere, divine spirits everywhere). So, it's not I whose identified Mormons with the heathens. It's Mormons' own belief in polytheism (and worse, that we can increase that polytheism by joining the ranks of the circle of gods) that places Mormons in the same encampment as heathens past.

BTW, haven't you noticed the RLDS have become more Biblical in their doctrine through the years?

442 posted on 11/20/2006 7:11:35 PM PST by Colofornian
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