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To: Domandred
Not withstanding that however it doesn't change the fact that Mormons "devoutly, thoughtfully, seriously, and prayerfully regards themselves to be Christian" (source www.religioustolerance.org) so therefor must be Christian

So, anybody could claim to be a "Mormon," develop a "tolerance" Web site, put it on the site, and it'd be so, eh?

Christ himself even said as much.

Yeah, good idea, let's go to Christ himself: "At that time if anyone says to you, 'Look, here is the Christ!' or 'There he is!' Do not believe it. For false Christs and false prophets will appear...See, I have told you ahead of time." (Matthrew 24:23-25)

You're saying anyone claiming to be a Christian is one makes as much sense as anyone claiming to be Christ is he.

No, Christ said just the opposite as what you claim: He said the "wheat" and "tares" (the genuine and the false weed) would be grouped together for HIM to separate (Matthew 13:24-30). He said "wide is the road that leads to destruction, narrow is the way that leads to life" indicating that hell is a mega-highway and heaven is a narrow bridge. He said that only half of those expecting to be spiritually intimate with Him for eternity won't be (Matthew 25:1-13).

I could "devoutly, thoughtfully, seriously, and prayerfully" call myself a Christian and simultaneously worship the tulips in my backyard. But somehow I don't think my self-label or what some tolerance Web site might label me is going to carry much eternal weight in God's eyes.

339 posted on 11/20/2006 2:12:10 PM PST by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian
So, anybody could claim to be a "Mormon," develop a "tolerance" Web site, put it on the site, and it'd be so, eh?

So your saying that the web source I linked was created by Mormons? That's a laugh. I linked it because I used their definition as source so therefor was citing a source as opposed to plagerism.

You didn't even bother going to the site did you? You just thought that since I am not an anti-mormon that the site must be a pro-mormon site written by Mormons, with a definition of Christian written specifically for Mormons. You could not be more wrong.

Conversely to your statement however any schmuck can also put whatever they want up on the internet. Difference is though if it is anti-mormon you are more inclined to believe it. That is anti-mormon bias and bigotry, and bigotry is unChristian like.

Now to answer your statement about I could "devoutly, thoughtfully, seriously, and prayerfully" call myself a Christian and simultaneously worship the tulips in my backyard.

No it doesn't work that way. You are worshiping tulips and not Christ. You are not a Christian. You are a tulip worshipper. Heathen.

Try this one if you like Biblical versus so much...John 11:25-26. "WHOEVER believes in me". Not "Christians except those people out in Utah called Mormons who claim they are Christian but aren't really because the Catholic religion says they aren't". WHOEVER. Funny how that works. That's a contridiction to your quote I know.

The Bible has plenty of those contridictions, which is why no denomination agrees with the other on everything and why even inside denominations there is not always agreement.

How can denominations that cannot even agree with each other or themselves make a judgement on an entire religion, that worships Christ, that they are not Christian? They cannot. No matter which definition is applied some Christian religion will be left out of Christendom.

According to Christ "He who believes in me will live, even though he dies" does not make the distinction of which denomination you are a part of, as long as you believe in Christ and the atonement.

Mormons believe in Jesus Christ, they believe in the atonement. The same Jesus Christ and atonement you believe in. The details may not be the same, and that is all it is, details. Details that are different even in other denominations that you do consider Christian.

Like it or not Mormons are most definitely a Christian religion by any logical definition of Christian.

352 posted on 11/20/2006 3:18:14 PM PST by Domandred
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To: Colofornian

>>So, anybody could claim to be a "Mormon," develop a "tolerance" Web site, put it on the site,
>> and it'd be so, eh?

No, because Mormons have a strict membership requirement that is enforced by the church, which is here and now.

Christianity is NOT for you to decide. It is for Christ to decide. News flash, you are not Jesus Christ. Stop acting as if you get to decide who is Christian and who is not. I am comfortable with my acceptance as a Christian by He who gave his all for me, you do not come into the picture, except when you slander that which you obviously do not understand.

>>Yeah, good idea, let's go to Christ himself:

Always a good idea.

>>At that time if anyone says to you, 'Look, here is the Christ!' or 'There he is!' Do not
>>believe it. For false Christs and false prophets will appear...See, I have told you ahead
>>of time." (Matthrew 24:23-25)

No one is saying this, except you. I am a Mormon, I am not Jesus Christ, I have never been Jesus, I do not play him on TV.

Going to Christ with a question is ALWAYS a good idea.

>>No, Christ said just the opposite as what you claim: He said the "wheat" and "tares"

He also said the he would separate them at the doors, not in the field. Who are you to judge me, and mine?

>>I don't think my self-label or what some tolerance Web
>>site might label me is going to carry much eternal
>>weight in God's eyes.

Nor will your opinion for that matter.

You obviously have issues with Mormons, let’s be honest now, why do you get on every thread about Mormons and bash us? Can you be honest? Were you stood up for the prom by a Mormon or what?


355 posted on 11/20/2006 3:36:01 PM PST by DelphiUser ("You can lead a man to knowledge, but you can't make him think")
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