Posted on 11/20/2006 8:24:45 AM PST by areafiftyone
Mitt Romney (R) begins the 2008 campaign season in fourth place among those seeking the GOP Presidential nomination, trailing Rudy Giuliani, John McCain, and Condoleezza Rice. While many Republican insiders believe the Massachusetts Governor could become an attractive candidate to the party's social conservatives, a Rasmussen Reports survey finds that Romney's faith may initially be more of a hindrance than a help.
Forty-three percent (43%) of American voters say they would never even consider voting for a Mormon Presidential candidate. Only 38% say they would consider casting such a vote while 19% are not sure. Half (53%) of all Evangelical Christians say that they would not consider voting for a Mormon candidate.
Overall, 29% of Likely Voters have a favorable opinion of Romney while 30% hold an unfavorable view. Most of those opinions are less than firmly held. Ten percent (10%) hold a very favorable opinion while 11% have a very unfavorable assessment. Among the 41% with no opinion of Romney, just 27% say they would consider voting for a Mormon.
It is possible, of course, that these perceptions might change as Romney becomes better known and his faith is considered in the context of his campaign. Currently, just 19% of Likely Voters are able to identify Romney as the Mormon candidate from a list of six potential Presidential candidates.
The response to a theoretical Mormon candidate is far less negative than the response to a Muslim candidate or an atheist. Sixty-one percent (61%) of Likely Voters say they would never consider voting for a Muslim Presidential candidate. Sixty percent (60%) say the same about an atheist.
The Rasmussen Reports survey found that 35% say that a candidate's faith and religious beliefs are very important in their voting decision. Another 27% say faith and religious beliefs are somewhat important. Ninety-two percent (92%) of Evangelical Christian voters consider a candidate's faith and beliefs important.
On the partisan front, 78% of Republicans say that a candidate's faith is an important consideration, a view shared by 55% of Democrats. However, there is also a significant divide on this topic within the Democratic Party. Among minority Democrats, 71% consider faith and religious beliefs an important consideration for voting. Just 44% of white Democrats agree.
The national telephone survey of 1,000 Likely Voters was conducted by Rasmussen Reports November 16-17, 2006. The margin of sampling error for the survey is +/- 3 percentage points with a 95% level of confidence.
Well, at least I have lots of company in your world. LOL. This thread is an exemplar of why Thomas Jefferson was so suspicious of organized religion.
"I will preach on the plurality of gods. I am going to tell you how God came to be God. We have imagined and supposed that God was God from all eternity. I will refute that idea, and take away the veil, so that you may see"If you can make sense of these contradictions, let me know.Joseph Smith
King Follett Discourse
"I know that God is not a partial God, neither a changeable being; but he is unchangeable from all eternity to all eternity"
Moroni 8:18
"God himself was once as we are now, and is an exalted man, and sits enthroned in yonder heavens! That is the great secret. If the veil were rent today, and the great God who upholds all worlds and all things by his power, was to make himself visible—I say, if you were to see him today, you would see him like a man in form—like yourselves in all the person, image, and very form as a man; for Adam was created in the very fashion, image, and likeness of God, and received instruction from, and walked, talked and conversed with him, as one man talks and communes with another"
Josehp Smith
King Follett Discourse"For do we not read that God is the same yesterday, today and forever, and in him there is no variableness, neither shadow of changing? And now, if ye have imagined up unto yourselves a god who doth vary, and in whom there is shadow of changing, then ye have imagined up unto yourselves a god who is not a God of miracles"
Mormon 9:9-10
So many false hoods, so little time…
>>Not Trinitarians
Correct (neither were the apostles, the Doctrine of "The Trinity” was not created until 325 AD by Constantine who was not a Christian. Question exactly who was Jesus standing on the right HAND of when peter saw his vision?) – I got more, the trinity is not Biblical, it was Constantine’s idea and he had to kill bishops to get the Catholic Church to agree to it (look it up your self, I suggest New advent.org, a catholic site BTW) http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/11044a.htm
>>The "Father, Son and Holy Spirit" are supposedly three persons who used to be human beings.
BZZT, Wrong Try this http://scriptures.lds.org/en/a_of_f/1 it’s what the church actually believes and it’s on the web for all to see, so why don’t you just link instead of being inaccurate?
>>The Father got promoted to the job of ruler of this planet. Eventually, if you're good, you can have your own planet too.
There are so many things wrong with this that I am having trouble separating them (and I’ve BEEN a Mormon for 34 years!)
How’s this for a Biblical reference: John 10:34 34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are Gods?
And why is it exactly that we call him father? Do sheep have Puppies? Do dogs give birth to Kittens?
You try to make the logical look illogical just like the liberals do.
>>If you don't believe me, look it up.
Go look it up, my eye, give a link when you say that, OK? Otherwise people might start to think you are just a religion troll.
Here a link to everything you ever wanted to know about Mormons http://lds.org
P.S. Drive by smears do not become us.
It would depend, but since such a large subset (2-15%, based on the estimations of the author of "Jihad in America") of Muslims in the US subscribe to radical beliefs, one has to be prudent and cautious in assessing a Muslim candidate. In contrast what subset of Mormons subscribe to radical beliefs? Statistically near zero, and none of their religious texts advocate violent and repressive radicalism.
Huge difference, so frankly comparing the two is somewhat silly.
Well I can't cite any LDS Scripture, but I could cite you a certain confidential LDS bishop's manual in which it's okay for a pre-born baby to be put to death for reasons of the "health" of the Mom.
"Life of the mom" is one thing; "health" is another. "Health" is overly encompassing...and could justify most abortions.
Yes, although the scandal was really a function of her bad marriage.
We have non-members come see Baptisms all the time. We just don't do them during sacrament meeting.
We believe in full immersion, not sprinkling, if that helps.
You're the one who set up the standard of not spitting on a group with similar political tenets in some areas. Both LDS (variety of issues) and Muslims (abortion and homosexuality) apply. First you say we should compare and contrast groups like the LDS (to our own conservative beliefs). Now you say this contrast and comparison game is silly. Which is it?
That's a very, very long stretch.
Give me a break. The same KJV Bible LDS advertise on TV says that in the Great Commission (Matthew 28:19-20) the church is to baptize folks in the Name (not names like LDS theologically believe, but a singular Name) of the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost/Holy Spirit.
I'm sorry but this and multiple other passages all pre-date 325 AD. Try again.
29 Else what shall they do which are baptized for the dead, if the dead rise not at all? why are they then baptized for the dead?
1 Cor. 15:29
Complete nonsense.
Sorry, I'm not going to go round and round playing the hair-splitting games of the Pharasees. Have a nice day.
Harry Reid, a Mormon and new Senate Majority Leader, must be bracing for the incoming hate-mail!
Well, it's only a "stretch" because you've escaped the womb alive. You're not a pre-born whose Mom is claiming to be unhealthy, are you?
It's funny how perspective means everything. If babies could speak they would tell you there's a jihad going on against the womb.
Sorry I have not logged in in awhile. I forgot replying doesn't include the original post.
Oh, yes. A common refrain used by Jesus in speaking to the Pharisees. How "Jesus" of you.
>>That's because Mormons don't publically baptise. We have no way of knowing how it is done.
Ask and ye shall recieve:
http://scriptures.lds.org/en/search?type=words&last=baptize&help=&wo=checked&search=baptize&iw=dc&tx=checked&af=checked&hw=checked&sw=checked&bw=1
This is the church's instructions, on baptisem.
But simply put, Immersion, and the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost are all in the prayer.
public? go ask your local Ward when the next one is, all are welcome, we just don't pose for pictures while doing it.
Correct
Thank you.
The "Father, Son and Holy Spirit" are supposedly three persons who used to be human beings.
BZZT, Wrong Try this http://scriptures.lds.org/en/a_of_f/1
I tried it and found this:
But Joseph Smith also says:1 We believe in God, the Eternal Father, and in His Son, Jesus Christ, and in the Holy Ghost...
Joseph Smith
"I will preach on the plurality of gods. I am going to tell you how God came to be God. We have imagined and supposed that God was God from all eternity. I will refute that idea, and take away the veil, so that you may see"I'll grant you this, Mormon doctrine is a moving target.Joseph Smith
King Follett Discourse"God himself was once as we are now, and is an exalted man, and sits enthroned in yonder heavens! That is the great secret. If the veil were rent today, and the great God who upholds all worlds and all things by his power, was to make himself visible—I say, if you were to see him today, you would see him like a man in form—like yourselves in all the person, image, and very form as a man; for Adam was created in the very fashion, image, and likeness of God, and received instruction from, and walked, talked and conversed with him, as one man talks and communes with another"
Josehp Smith
King Follett Discourse
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