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To: jonesboheim
And Kramer wasn't a racist a-hole? I have been to a lot of comedy clubs and I have never seen a performer talk to an audience in such a manner -- with racial slurs for the sake of racial slurs. No punch-line. No tongue-in-cheek. No Kramer pratfall. Just good ole civil rights-era racial epithets.

Kramer's worse. He's an idiot with a microphone and should be disregarded entirely. He's humiliated himself and basically cancelled out his career. The next time he shows his face in public, someone will probably take a shot at him. He's done. Finished.

Enough of a penalty?

The guy in the audience did the same thing. What's going to happen to him I wonder.

The guy in the audience deserves the same.

I refuse to treat blacks as if calling someone some racial epithet isn't something any worse than calling someone a nigger.

The intent is the same. The reaction will be, too.

That being said, if you know me, I see God's infinite variety as one of his gifts. He's painted men the same as if he painted a rainbow. As I said to my buddy Carlao when I first met him, he asked what I thought of Brazil with all the different people together (we actually have racial harmony on par with Brasil from my experience) "O que um arcoiris com so um cor?" ("what is a rainbow with but one color?") My children are moreno and their friends fall along the entire range of the spectrum.

Hopefully they will grow up without the open hatred and hostility this generation has experienced.

501 posted on 11/21/2006 1:13:45 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: jonesboheim
Just an interesting note on our treatment of minorities as compared to those in Brasil.

There's an interesting but "quiet" racism I observed. In Rio, the girl I was with and I visited her grandmother (her mother was adopted by this wonderful lady.) In this particular building, upper middle class area, there were two elevators. one in the front and one in the back for servants. Just about everyone has servants unless you live in a favela (shanty town/slum.)

Well, it was explained to me that usually darker skinned people like her would sometimes get yelled at if they used the front elevator. Everyone just assumed they were servants! In fact, the girl I was with had been yelled at a number of times in years past. Later on, those who said something had a chunk bitten out of their tails by her "formidable" grandmother. Still, just imagine...

At any rate. I don't appreciate racism. Going both ways. Again, Kramer's done. he's beneath my notice unless I have to step over him in the street. Doesn't excuse anyone else from participating in his idiocy, though. The guy in the audience should have stopped at "That's uncalled for".

502 posted on 11/21/2006 2:11:36 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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