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To: weegee
What's a stretch is the effort you go to to minimize and excuse what is clearly an offensive racist outburst. If this thread lasts 2000 posts, I think I'll see you on post 1999 telling us about Chris Rock or something equally irrelevant. You have issues with condemnation of legitimate racism when it occurs, I don't know what they are, and I really don't care. I just do hope that you are very atypical of conservatives. I have always believed such, especially among those who grew up after a certain time, but I wonder sometimes when I see a significant number of people on a board like this just continue over and over to excuse outright racist behavior and beliefs. I think it's just that such types are more likely to post on a thread like this.

Liberals want affirmative action and quotas. Conservatives are for a colorblind society, in which people are judged for their own merit. Conservatives are also highly protective of free speech and personal liberty, which can mean that we tolerate hateful beliefs, statements and actions by people. Tolerating something as part of a free society does not mean encouraging or promoting it. Kramer can believe whatever he wants. We don't have to buy tickets to his shows, and now that people know more about him, much fewer people will. Similarly, you are entitled to fight to the death on your view that Kramer has done nothing wrong, but we don't have to pay attention to you any longer. You have revealed something about yourself on this thread, too.

336 posted on 11/20/2006 3:01:40 PM PST by Defiant (Dems don't want to lose Iraq, they just want Hillary to win it and then fly onto a carrier.)
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To: Defiant

Whites have the advantage because they are secure in their opinion of themselves while blacks are not.

Blacks can call whites 'cracker' or 'honkey' or 'white trash' and the whites simply don't care what the blacks think. The blacks have no power over them.

Blacks enslave themselves because they define themselves in terms of what others say about them. They care what 'whitey' thinks. They care what 'whitey' says. This gives 'whitey' power over them.

Shouldn't be that way, but it is.


338 posted on 11/20/2006 3:08:39 PM PST by GourmetDan
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To: Defiant

For a 'Defiant' you shore follow the crowd of lemmings, fellow, with your politically correct, lame and cliche ridden obsession with something called "RACISM", which like "FASCISM" is pretty much meaningless and a synonym of "bad", and if you study the history of its usage, you'll find that, oh, '60 years ago it referred to some semi-scientific race theories, until it was happily adapted by the Soviet propagandists and then the Western leftists following the orders, to denigrate the white race and its imperialist (read 'bad') history and serve as a substitute for innocent and pervasive in every society ethnocentrism. Maybe ethnocentrism is 'bad', I don't know, but it has been throughout history unavoidable. But you know all that, don't you.


341 posted on 11/20/2006 3:17:26 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Who invented rock and roll hiccups?)
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To: Defiant

I've condemned it. Said the word shouldn't be accepted ANYWHERE in the popular media.

You said that he targeted them because they were black and that they had a RIGHT to disrupt the show.


363 posted on 11/20/2006 3:47:29 PM PST by weegee (Remember "Remember the Maine"? Well in the current war "Remember the Baby Milk Factory")
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