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Megapastor Rick Warren's Damascus Road experience (Megapastor Rick Warren admits he's in CFR)
World Net ^ | November 20, 2006 | Joe Farrah

Posted on 11/20/2006 5:44:21 AM PST by Esther Ruth

Megapastor Rick Warren's Damascus Road experience (Megapastor Rick Warren admits he's in CFR)

Posted: November 20, 200 1:00 a.m. Eastern

WASHINGTON – Rick Warren, the superstar mega-church pastor and bestselling author of ''The Purpose Driven Life,'' had a Damascus Road experience last week – and like Saul of Tarsus, one of the after-effects appears to be blindness. Warren went to Syria and could find no persecution of Christians. He could find no persecution of Jews. He could find no evidence of extremism. He could find no evidence of the sponsorship of terrorism.

Despite the temporary loss of vision that prevented him from seeing any evil in the totalitarian police state, Warren's hearing was apparently not affected – for his ears were tickled by what he heard and apparently accepted lock, stock and barrel from the second-generation dictator, Bashar Assad, and his state-approved mufti.

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But that's not the story Warren is telling – at least not in the official press releases he is sending out from Rwanda in response to my confrontations with him last week in which I accused him of betraying his own country in a hostile foreign land and of being a propaganda tool of the Islamo-fascist regime in Damascus.

In fact, after I called him out last week in my column, Warren e-mailed me claiming to have been misquoted by the official Syrian news agency.

''Joseph, why didn't you contact me first and discover the fact that I said nothing of the sort?'' he pleaded. ''The trip was a favor to my next door neighbor, had nothing to do with policy, and was done with the State Department's knowledge – who told us to expect exactly what Syria did – a PR blast. I don't pretend to be a diplomat. I'm a pastor who just gets invited places.''

I pointed out to Warren that WND had indeed attempted to contact him about his trip. No one from his Saddleback Church ever returned our calls the day the story broke.

''I'm sure since you were warned in advance by the State Department that you took the precaution of recording your own words,'' I suggested in my response. ''We look forward to seeing the transcripts or hearing the recordings.''

I also asked if he could respond specifically to the words put in his mouth by the Syrian news agency. And lastly I suggested that he should have ''counseled with me, or other people knowledgeable about the Middle East before doing so much damage with your reckless trip.''

I really didn't expect to hear back from Warren – but, a few minutes later, I did, with an absolutely stunning retort.

He let me know he is a close friend of President Bush ''and many, if not most, of the generals at the Pentagon.''

He also told me he did not tape anything while in Syria, ''because it was a courtesy call, like I do in every country.''

Warren explained that he had also counseled with the National Security Council and the White House, as well as the State Department, before his little courtesy call for a neighbor.

''In fact,'' Warren added, ''as a member of the Council on Foreign Relations and Oxford Analytica, I might know as much about the Middle East as you.''

He continued: ''I hope you'll not choose to believe Syrian propaganda even though, as you pointed out at the start of your article, you've been wanting to criticize me for some time. In spite of your rush to judgment, I think you write great, insightful columns. You are almost batting 1,000.''

No sooner had I received this surprising response from Warren, I also got an e-mail providing a link to a YouTube video of Rick Warren in Syria explaining how great the Assad regime treats Christians and Jews and how Damascus ''does not permit extremism of any kind.''

Not one to let lies go unchallenged, I wrote back to Warren with a link to the YouTube video: ''If you didn't tape anything, what's this? Do you really believe Syria does not allow extremism of any kind? There are more terrorist organizations based in Syria than anywhere else in the world!''

It might be that Rick Warren, deep in the bush of Rwanda, never received those last questions, because he never responded – at least not in the last three days.

He did, however, within minutes make sure the YouTube video he recorded independent of his meetings with the Syrian brown shirts was removed from the network. Vanished. Kaput. Sterilized. Cleansed.

Stay tuned for more on Rick Warren's ''Agenda-Driven Life'' in the coming days – sponsored, of course, by the Council on Foreign Relations.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: burqagirl; cfr; dhimmicrats; evangelical; nancypelosi; occult; oneworld; purposedrivenlife; rickwarren; saddlebackchurch; syria; warren
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To: Kokojmudd
T-shirt: I visited Syria and never lost my head.
61 posted on 11/20/2006 8:28:56 AM PST by fish hawk
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To: Paloma_55; All

It is a heretical piece of crap.

John Piper's Don't Waste Your Life is orthodox and God-centered.


62 posted on 11/20/2006 8:29:03 AM PST by rwfromkansas (http://xanga.com/rwfromkansas)
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To: Esther Ruth

Rick Warren is so full of himself. His farcical writing, with theology that is no more than an inch deep, is a real embarassment. If the truth be know, he has done more harm with his books than he has done good. I guess he is beginning to believe his own publicity...and that of those who would include him in a list of the 25 most influential evangelicals, along with Ted Haggard!


63 posted on 11/20/2006 8:40:49 AM PST by LiteKeeper (Beware the secularization of America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
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To: newzjunkey
Other folks with CFR include Albright, Holbrooke, Bob Rubin, Pickering, Brokaw, Feinstein.

So is G.H.W. Bush and Newt Gingrich. They do it for the t-shirt, ballcap and coffee mug.
64 posted on 11/20/2006 8:59:19 AM PST by Kokojmudd (Outsource GM to a Red State! Put Walmart in charge of all Federal agencies!)
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To: Esther Ruth

PING for later read.


65 posted on 11/20/2006 9:01:29 AM PST by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: Bainbridge
He only wears those goofy Hawaiian shirts.

Dang, the cfr must be going for a new image. What'll they do next? Official cfr tattoos?
66 posted on 11/20/2006 9:02:07 AM PST by Kokojmudd (Outsource GM to a Red State! Put Walmart in charge of all Federal agencies!)
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To: Esther Ruth

''In fact,'' Warren added, ''as a member of the Council on Foreign Relations and Oxford Analytica, I might know as much about the Middle East as you.''

White House? National Security Council? I thought he was a pastor!


67 posted on 11/20/2006 9:11:23 AM PST by RoadTest ( He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches. -Rev. 3:6)
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To: Esther Ruth

No I don't believe it is as simplistic as that. Generally it is a forum for discussion of political theory and actions. There is a great variety of views expressed in its publications.


68 posted on 11/20/2006 9:14:56 AM PST by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: Quix

Nonsense.


69 posted on 11/20/2006 9:15:39 AM PST by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: Esther Ruth

I lived in Mission Viejo, when Warren started his church. Originally, most of the members were former members of other protestant churches in the area, looking for something more from a church than what they were getting from the mainstream churches in the area. The Presbyterian church had just voted to ordain women, and a whole lot of member left over that. The Lutheran church's pastor ran the service like a game show host, and the Methodist church was more of a women's social club than a church. Warren offered something different, or at least he seemed to be more fundamentalist than the others. I remember members of his church who wouldn't let their kids listen to rock music or play with He-man figures, because of their religious beliefs. I mean this church (the members, not the pastor) was strictly Bible believing.

But...I never bought into his act. His service was just another one of those pastor-centered, not God centered, shows that are put on every Sunday around the country. I think that he envisioned himself as in competition with Schuler.


70 posted on 11/20/2006 9:39:01 AM PST by Eva
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To: Esther Ruth
How does one get invited to join the Council of Foreign Relations?

Is there some sort of board that invites people, or do they send out membership solicitations like the Smithsonian Institute or National Geographic?
71 posted on 11/20/2006 9:40:27 AM PST by Nevadan
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To: Nevadan

How do you join?

FRom the CFR FAQs page..

http://www.cfr.org/about/faqs.html


How are individuals selected for membership?

Every candidate for membership must be a U.S. citizen or a permanent resident with an application for citizenship pending. Candidates are formally proposed in writing by one member and seconded by a minimum of three other individuals. Letters of support from members (as opposed to non-members) are strongly encouraged. Quality, diversity, and balance are the key objectives sought by the Council in the composition of its membership. The roster of members is listed in the published version of the annual report. To request a published version of the annual report, email the Council’s Communications Department at communications@cfr.org. Click here for more information about member-selection procedures.






Mission Statement
http://www.cfr.org/about/mission.html

Founded in 1921, the Council on Foreign Relations is an independent, national membership organization and a nonpartisan center for scholars dedicated to producing and disseminating ideas so that individual and corporate members, as well as policymakers, journalists, students, and interested citizens in the United States and other countries, can better understand the world and the foreign policy choices facing the United States and other governments. The Council, which is headquartered in New York with an office in Washington, DC, does this by:

Convening meetings in New York, Washington, DC, and in other select American cities where senior government officials, global leaders, and prominent thinkers come together with Council members to debate and discuss the major foreign policy issues of our time;

Conducting a wide-ranging Studies Program where Council fellows produce articles and books that analyze foreign policy issues and make concrete policy recommendations;

Publishing Foreign Affairs, the preeminent journal covering international affairs and U.S. foreign policy;

Maintaining a diverse membership, including special programs to foster interest and expertise in the next generation of foreign policy leaders;

Sponsoring Independent Task Forces whose reports help set the public foreign policy agenda; and

Providing up-to-date information about the world and U.S. foreign policy on the Council’s website, www.cfr.org.


72 posted on 11/20/2006 10:07:06 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ...... Cornyn / Kyl in '08)
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To: TommyDale

Hey Tommy, do you buy into this CFR conspiracy stuff?


73 posted on 11/20/2006 10:27:40 AM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: newzjunkey

Don't forget Bolton.


74 posted on 11/20/2006 10:30:12 AM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: Eva
How can it be so difficult for a group of Christians to gather together a few times a week and have song and Bible reading/study, sweet, simple - like it used to be. How many sad, lonely, broken hearts there must be, people who want so badly to be with others but with all the dysfunction in churches and the leadership, who can blame them for staying away. Would almost be better if one had been locked up in a cave the last 30 years then to have to live through the circus that has been going on and all the psycho mumbo gumbo. So ironic that this nation has come to such a pinnacle of freedom and wealth, yet both our churches and homes look like unimaginable dysfunctional jokes/parodies. Love is suppose to be sincere and authentic, with out wax, not pretend - but the way folks are lead to believe they should act and carry themselves off in the church is so phoney, unreal. The circus conductors (pastors) train up their congregations to be circus ponies, doing tricks for the unconverted to bring them and their money in, push them till they break their backs and their hearts.

Then again, a good majority actually crave and seek out this superficial road show. They've been nurtured on it, addicted to the excitement of it like boose and drugs, they would be bored without it. The real thing may have come along once or twice and they rejected it for it'simplicity and plainness.
75 posted on 11/20/2006 10:39:00 AM PST by Esther Ruth
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To: justshutupandtakeit; All

Have studied such things for more than 45 years.

Accusations of "nonsense" don't hold much water with me.

The elites have been on such a trek for a long time.

The issues listed on the Georgia Guide Stones are indicative of their relatively sanitized public sentiments:

THE MESSAGE OF THE GEORGIA GUIDESTONES

1. Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature.
2. Guide reproduction wisely - improving fitness and diversity.
3. Unite humanity with a living new language.
4. Rule passion - faith - tradition - and all things with tempered reason.
5. Protect people and nations with fair laws and just courts.
6. Let all nations rule internally resolving external disputes in a world court.
7. Avoid petty laws and useless officials.
8. Balance personal rights with social duties.
9. Prize truth - beauty - love - seeking harmony with the infinite.
10.Be not a cancer on the earth - Leave room for nature - Leave room for nature.

Limiting the population of the earth to 500 million will require the extermination of nine-tenths of the world's people. The American Stonehenge's reference to establishing a world court foreshadows the current move to create an International Criminal Court and a world government. The Guidestones' emphasis on preserving nature anticipates the environmental movement of the 1990s, and the reference to "seeking harmony with the infinite" reflects the current effort to replace Judeo-Christian beliefs with a new spirituality.

FROM:

http://www.radioliberty.com/stones.htm

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If the "nonsense" comment indicates tha FREEPERS are going to be supporting CFR from now on, count me out of such a position.

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I don't know if Rick Warren is being sent as an agent into enemy territory by The Lord or has been co-opted as so many leaders have into the globalist agenda. I'm quite uncomfortable with some of his recent statements.

But I'm not his judge. God is well able to lead and discipline him as God sees fit.

Rick has done a LOT for the Kingdom of God in his own way and that's quite fine with me. I have no need to throw rocks at him.

I do have a need to be alert to the possibility that he may be in the process of being co-opted by the globalists.

Praying . . .


76 posted on 11/20/2006 10:45:10 AM PST by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIS ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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To: GarySpFc; Esther Ruth

What's the deal about the CFR? What do they do; why is being associated with them a bad thing?


77 posted on 11/20/2006 10:47:16 AM PST by GretchenM (What does it profit a man to gain the whole world and lose his soul? Please meet my friend, Jesus)
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To: NormsRevenge

Sounds dangerous, all right (stifling a yawwwnnn......)


78 posted on 11/20/2006 10:51:04 AM PST by linda_22003
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To: linda_22003

lol.. Sorry to overwhelm you. :-)


79 posted on 11/20/2006 10:51:52 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ...... Cornyn / Kyl in '08)
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To: NormsRevenge

I've just never understood what all the fuss was about. A close friend's father was a member of CFR, and also was in Skull and Bones at Yale. And he didn't have enough hair to successfully cover a "666" on his skull, so I'm pretty sure there was none.


80 posted on 11/20/2006 10:55:39 AM PST by linda_22003
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