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Condi's Iraq surprise
Salon ^ | November 17 | Mark Benjamin

Posted on 11/19/2006 5:28:36 PM PST by PghBaldy

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To: TexKat

Thanks, Kat.

Interesting that CFR had a place at the table. Many of the former officials are CFR, too.

Tinfoil hat out for reblocking. ;-)


61 posted on 11/20/2006 7:40:00 AM PST by pinz-n-needlez (Jack Bauer wears Tony Snow pajamas)
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To: pinz-n-needlez

IMHO, tinfoil not necessary!


62 posted on 11/20/2006 9:10:13 AM PST by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: TexKat

Thank you very much for all of the links you have posted.

As I went down the list of all who have met with the ISG...I found myself mentally putting check marks next to names that make me either nervous..or not so happy.

I hope that this ISG just ends up being a footnote to this period of history....


63 posted on 11/20/2006 9:36:06 AM PST by Txsleuth (Bolton/Cheney (that would be Lynne) 08)
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To: Txsleuth
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A Pentagon panel has outlined three basic options for improving the situation in Iraq -- pull out, send more U.S. troops or reduce the size of the force but stay longer, The Washington Post reported on Monday. The group was likely to recommend a combination of a small short-term increase of U.S. troops and long-term training for Iraqi forces, the newspaper reported, citing senior defense officials.

The options have been dubbed "Go Home," "Go Big" and "Go Longer" by insiders.

Sources who have been briefed on the review, led by Gen. Peter Pace, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said the group had concluded there were not enough U.S. forces to "Go Big," sending in thousands more troops, the Post said.

"Go Home," the quick pullout option, was rejected as likely to push Iraq directly into a full-blown civil war, the Post said.

The Pentagon group devised a hybrid plan, "Go Long," which calls for cutting the U.S. combat presence combined with a long-term expansion of the training and advising of Iraqi forces, the newspaper said.

http://www.abc4.com/news/national/story.aspx?content_id=154DBAAA-6ED2-4643-BD9C-5621B398A9A4

64 posted on 11/20/2006 9:50:22 AM PST by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: PghBaldy

Too many constantly underestimate the Bush Administration.

Ask yourself this question as if you were the Administration and the U. S. military:

If your Iraqi policy came under strong attack, what would be the fastest and best way to unite the country in this crucial battle on which our national security depends, or at least serve to dampen the partisan criticism?? What would be your alternatives in achieving this??


65 posted on 11/20/2006 10:19:50 AM PST by mtntop3
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To: Freee-dame
Am I supposed to believe anything that I read in Salon?

Only with a bit of salt:


66 posted on 11/20/2006 10:22:13 AM PST by COBOL2Java ("No stronger retrograde force exists in the world" - Winston Churchill on Islam)
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To: mtntop3

Humpf, did someone leak that to you or are you a member of the ISG?


67 posted on 11/20/2006 10:32:50 AM PST by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: humint

Why has the Treason Media suppressed the knowledge of Libya's turning over Saddam's Nuclear Weapons research program. After the invasion of Iraq Libya gave it up along with its materials, equipment and findings.

THIS alone justified the war. Yet there has been NO interest in this in the Treason Media. NO Pulizter Prize investigations, NO major stories on the TV, NO major articles in the Press.

Total suppression of the truth when it helps the President is the Treason Media's SOP accompanied by 24/7/365 barrages of LIES.


68 posted on 11/20/2006 10:35:30 AM PST by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: mtntop3
Too many constantly underestimate the Bush Administration.

Rumsfeld was a member of this Bush Administration. I wonder why it is that he is no longer.

69 posted on 11/20/2006 10:35:47 AM PST by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: TexKat

I was on a thread with that article last night...

BTW..I saw a clip of President Bush in Indonesia...and he was talking about getting results of discussions by groups, before he makes a decision..

BUT, luckily, IMHO...he singled out the MILITARY group, run by Peter Pace, when he spoke...which I hope means that he is giving most of his faith in them.

As I posted last night.....I just cannot believe that America would once again fall for having CONGRESS run our wars...like Vietnam.

As far as I am concerned, ISG group be damned...the only people that should be asked about HOW to win it the military..on the ground, in Iraq.


70 posted on 11/20/2006 10:38:20 AM PST by Txsleuth (Bolton/Cheney (that would be Lynne) 08)
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To: Txsleuth
As far as I am concerned, ISG group be damned...the only people that should be asked about HOW to win it the military..on the ground, in Iraq.

Amen.

71 posted on 11/20/2006 10:44:19 AM PST by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: PghBaldy

Once the war got into the hands of the "Politicians" it was a done deal that the effort would fail. Today, if you don't run a 'blitzkreig' war for the first few weeks and end it, it is destined to be made totally 'unwinable' by the vested interests of the political and chattering classes.


72 posted on 11/20/2006 11:48:39 AM PST by Don Corleone (Leave the gun..take the cannoli)
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To: TexKat

How do you know he isn't?


73 posted on 11/20/2006 6:25:07 PM PST by mtntop3
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To: PghBaldy
Former Democratic Rep. Lee Hamilton seemed like an obvious choice. A highly respected voice on foreign policy, Hamilton had been vice-chairman of the 9/11 Commission.

Oh Goody.

74 posted on 11/20/2006 11:21:00 PM PST by El Gato
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