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To: rmlew
Thanks to laws passed in Hazelton PA barring rentals to illegals, there was an exodus of illegal immigrants. Illegals will leave if the costs outway the benefits.

Irregardless of how you make them leave, if 15 million people moved in short order, the result would be catastrophic. The leftist press would believably paint it as akin to a holocaust, and whatever party wrote the laws would be in deep caca. Therefore, it ain't going to happen nationwide. Get over it, and spend your energy encuraging assimilation. This country was the melting pot of the world for centuries, and I'm amazed that conservatives have surrendered to the idea that assimilation is now impossible.

218 posted on 11/20/2006 5:22:01 PM PST by narby
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To: narby
This country was the melting pot of the world for centuries, and I'm amazed that conservatives have surrendered to the idea that assimilation is now impossible.

My grandparents came legally and I expect everyone else to do the same. We tried amnesty in 1986 and it failed. Many of those former illegals still don't speak a lick of English all these years later and you want to do it again? The bogyman of "it's either mass deportation or amnesty" doesn't fly either, as Hazleton has already proven, simply enforce the law and they'll leave on their own.

219 posted on 11/20/2006 5:34:49 PM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: narby
Irregardless of how you make them leave, if 15 million people moved in short order, the result would be catastrophic
Actually, I am not calling for an immediate expulsion of 15-30 million people. I would give businesses an 18 month amnesty to get rid of illegals on their dime.
In this period, we would create a targeted guest worker program.

The leftist press would believably paint it as akin to a holocaust, and whatever party wrote the laws would be in deep caca.
1. Half the problem are libertarians, neoconservatives, and the country clubbers using the same language and giving the left cover.
2. The left will scream about anything we do.
Bush wants amnesty, the Democrats are supporting welfare for illegals. We still lose!

Therefore, it ain't going to happen nationwide. Get over it, and spend your energy encuraging assimilation. This country was the melting pot of the world for centuries, and I'm amazed that conservatives have surrendered to the idea that assimilation is now impossible.
Assimilation did not just occur.
It happened because every other generation we restricted immigration. We also created an education system to promote assimilation.
Today we have an education system promoting ethnic seperatism and you want to increase the number of people comming in? Shall we be forced to allow in another 50 million in the next 25 years?

222 posted on 11/20/2006 6:04:17 PM PST by rmlew (Having slit their throats may the conservatives who voted for Casey choke slowly on their blood.)
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To: narby
This country was the melting pot of the world for centuries, and I'm amazed that conservatives have surrendered to the idea that assimilation is now impossible.

Exactly! That is why so many of us are so upset about Mexico over running America. It SHOULD be a melting pot, with a variety of immigrants as in the past (Africa, China, Europe). What the heck makes Mexico think they have a right to come here without following the same rules everyone else in the world follows? That is a question I've often asked of those supporting your side of the argument. I have yet to get an answer so why don't you tell me? Why should Mexico be allowed to just walk over the border when the rest of the decent world has millions of people who want to come here as well and are doing the right thing by coming legally? Or do you just believe in totally open immigration, no background checks and the entire world should send all their poor here? If it's good for Mexico then it should be good for the rest of the world as well?

229 posted on 11/20/2006 7:57:24 PM PST by ozarkgirl
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