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"...Until someone comes up with better ideas than these, the neocon strategy of trying to transform the Middle East, however blemished, remains without alternative. No doubt, the results of the midterm elections will produce some course corrections (as Rumsfeld has discovered). But neocon ideas are unlikely to be jettisoned -- either by Bush or his successor -- until a viable replacement is found. So far, there is none.

1 posted on 11/19/2006 6:51:57 AM PST by shrinkermd
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HEY! Wash. ComPOST, the elections are over...but, not for the Liberals' shills.
2 posted on 11/19/2006 6:57:25 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (Just b/c your paranoid; Doesn't mean they're NOT out to get you. :^)
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But neocon ideas are unlikely to be jettisoned -- either by Bush or his successor -- until a viable replacement is found. So far, there is none.

The WaPo demonstrates, once again, that democrats have no ideas, only carping.

3 posted on 11/19/2006 6:58:03 AM PST by jimtorr
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We shall see if their guy McCain can get himself elected, or most likely they will willingly take any position queen Hillry would toss their way.

What they (Kristol & McCain) did to Rummy is a disgrace and for me who use to pay attention to their words find them without credibility.
4 posted on 11/19/2006 7:00:54 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: shrinkermd

Only once the Dems screw up.


5 posted on 11/19/2006 7:01:15 AM PST by Brilliant
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Nope. What is the matter if Junk Media types are too arrogantly certain of their own infallablity they have refused to learn even the simplest facts about Iraq because they do not validate their domestic political bigotry.

As anyone who actually KNOWS the facts, Iraq is the most successful Counter Insurgency mission in history.

So sorry American morons in the DC Media-Political Complex that war does not run according to your "Military training from watching Rambo Movies" taught you to expect.

Want to fix Iraq Junk Media? Sit down, shut up and get out of the way. You have utterly failed to find out even the basic facts abot the mission in Iraq in three years. Time for the drama queens in the Junk media to just get out of the way.


7 posted on 11/19/2006 7:06:24 AM PST by MNJohnnie (I do not forgive Senator John McCain for helping destroy everything we built since 1980.)
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Everyone focusus on the Neocon's foreign policy. Their domestic policy is equally obnoxious.


10 posted on 11/19/2006 7:16:17 AM PST by DManA
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Neocon schmeocon. The whole article is nothing but vindictive leftist labeling, with scarcely a thought in its head. What else can you expect from the ComPost?


11 posted on 11/19/2006 7:23:52 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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What is a "neocon"?
13 posted on 11/19/2006 7:29:22 AM PST by BenLurkin ("The entire remedy is with the people." - W. H. Harrison)
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Just wait for another attack here in the US. The citizenry will not put up with "business as usual". There will be a howl for the removal of state and federal officials who have done nothing for our security.

The gun industry is beginning to see a huge surge in business with concealed carry purmits, training, and passage of the "Castle Doctrine" laws. Liberals will see the end of their efforts and the need to transform our country into a fortress for combating Islam will proceed full force. Islam is the problem and calling it a "religion of peace" is balony.


15 posted on 11/19/2006 7:31:13 AM PST by DownInFlames
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I don't like this term "neocon".

What they advocate is actually what was American foreign policy approach since Teddy Roosevelt. Other than being a forgotten old, there is nothing new about it.

This approach has suffered a setback and that's about it.
16 posted on 11/19/2006 7:48:56 AM PST by alecqss
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If I understand the basic principle of "neo" conservative,these people seem to be more globally oriented then grand dad's version of conservatives.In a shrinking world this concept may have merit,however when it includes nation building or tearing down our national borders I've got no use for the philosophy !!!


19 posted on 11/19/2006 8:27:35 AM PST by Obie Wan
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The libs are trying to flatter the neos...and succeeding. The neos just love flattery...catch the Election Issue of Vanity Fair.


20 posted on 11/19/2006 8:29:41 AM PST by Mamzelle
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One of the few positive things to have happened is that "Neocons" have been thoroughly discredited. Earth to Bill Kristol, don't promote a war, unless you have the balls to fight it.


23 posted on 11/19/2006 9:01:39 AM PST by stop_fascism
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Operation Comeback. How to Save the Neocons
American Enterprise Institute ^ | 11/1/06 | Joshua Muravchik

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1736193/posts
Posted on 11/10/2006 7:23:07 AM CST by Valin


TO: My Fellow Neoconservatives FROM: Joshua Muravchik RE: How to Save the Neocons

We neoconservatives have been through a startling few years. Who could have imagined six years ago that wild stories about our influence over U.S. foreign policy would reach the far corners of the globe? The loose group of us who felt impelled by the antics of the 1960s to migrate from the political left to right must have numbered fewer than 100. And we were proven losers at Washington’s power game: The left had driven us from the Democratic Party, stolen the “liberal” label, and successfully affixed to us the name “neoconservative.” In reality, of course, we don’t wield any of the power that contemporary legend attributes to us. Most of us don’t rise at the crack of dawn to report to powerful jobs in government. But it is true that our ideas have influenced the policies of President George W. Bush, as they did those of President Ronald Reagan. That does feel good. Our intellectual contributions helped to defeat communism in the last century and, God willing, they will help to defeat jihadism in this one. It also feels good to see that a number of young people and older converts are swelling our ranks.

The price of this success is that we are subjected to relentless obloquy. “Neocon” is now widely synonymous with “ultraconservative” or, for some, “dirty Jew.” A young Egyptian once said to me, “‘Neoconservative’ sounds to our ears like ‘terrorist’ sounds to yours.” I am shocked to hear that some among us, wearying of these attacks, are sidling away from the neocon label. Where is the joie de combat? The essential tenets of neoconservatism--belief that world peace is indivisible, that ideas are powerful, that freedom and democracy are universally valid, and that evil exists and must be confronted--are as valid today as when we first began. That is why we must continue to fight. But we need to sharpen our game. Here are some thoughts on how to do it:
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24 posted on 11/19/2006 9:06:13 AM PST by Valin (Rick Santorum 08)
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It is the war in Iraq that has made "neocon" a dirty word

Why are neo-cons considered a Republican phenomenon?

Disillusioned liberal intellectuals in the 1970s fled the New Left-dominated Democrat Party under a shower of insulting taunts from the extremists, "Neo-Cons!"

The liberals were too traditional, too patriotic, too pro-America for what is the Democrat Party.

The liberals did not want to "Bring it all down, man." They had to be purged and destroyed along with conservatives.

Pat Buchanan has referred to them as "McGovern boat people."

26 posted on 11/19/2006 9:27:49 AM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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article: Neoconservative ideas have been vindicated again and again on a string of major issues, including the Cold War, Bosnia and NATO expansion. It is the war in Iraq that has made "neocon" a dirty word, either because Bush's team woefully mismanaged the war or because the war (which neocons supported) was misconceived.

A neocon defending neocon territory. Pretty self-serving.

Neo-cons did not win the Cold War. To the contrary, they spent most of that period cheering for the Soviets. An inconvenient fact but a fact nonetheless.

And if Bosnia is a shining example of neo-con brilliance, then I'll give them full credit. But it was a complete Xlintonian/Eurotwit/Frenchish disaster from beginning to end.

And now, they retreat to Bush-was-incompetent or brilliant-but-untimely-plan or other drivel. I guess that's easy to say if none of your kids died or were maimed in Iraq.
38 posted on 11/19/2006 12:54:52 PM PST by George W. Bush
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Neoconservative ideas have been vindicated again and again on a string of major issues, including the Cold War, Bosnia and NATO expansion

Especially in Kosovo. Is it a joke?

41 posted on 11/19/2006 7:11:28 PM PST by A. Pole (Serbian proverb: "Bog visoko, a Rusija daleko." [God is high above, and Russia is far away.])
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Neoconservative ideas have been vindicated again and again on a string of major issues, including the Cold War, Bosnia and NATO expansion.

That's a knee-slapper if I ever saw one! I couldn't stop laughing for at least 10 minutes after I read it.

The neocons are in such a state of denial it's beyond funny.

43 posted on 11/19/2006 7:19:41 PM PST by curiosity
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"You and I are told we must choose between a left or right, but I suggest there is no such thing as a left or right. There is only an up or down. Up to man's age-old dream — the maximum of individual freedom consistent with order — or down to the ant heap of totalitarianism. Regardless of their sincerity, their humanitarian motives, those who would sacrifice freedom for security have embarked on this downward path. Plutarch warned, "The real destroyer of the liberties of the people is he who spreads among them bounties, donations and benefits."

-- RONALD REAGAN, 1975


44 posted on 11/19/2006 7:23:24 PM PST by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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Multi-party political system is the only answer. Make the stupid voters choose a party with clearly defined ideas. Don't make them register as members of one or another party at government expense. If they want to join a party they can, and they can pay their dues, and vote their intra party elections, at party expense. The RATS won this time, remember, by outconservativing the Pubbies, Unfreakingbelieveable, freakingmeaningless.


45 posted on 11/19/2006 7:24:28 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Who invented rock and roll hiccups?)
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