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To: Gondring

When all the evidence is in, I think historians will agree with Princeton’s Sean Wilentz, who wrote a carefully argued article judging Bush to have been the worst president in American history.

No Gondring, it is weasel words. He is using historians to project his own opinion because he hasn't the balls to say it for himself.


14 posted on 11/18/2006 10:52:54 PM PST by Dawnsblood
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To: Dawnsblood

I can't understand how you can get that from the Wilentz article that Mr. Hart cites. It's all about the historians' views, including liberal biases, etc.

Or perhaps you're thinking of the wrong article.


20 posted on 11/18/2006 11:13:07 PM PST by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: Dawnsblood; Gondring

"No Gondring, it is weasel words. He is using historians to project his own opinion because he hasn't the balls to say it for himself."

He's also using Vice President Dick Cheney:

It is worth considering a statement by Richard Cheney:

"Once you get to Baghdad, it’s not clear what you do with it. It’s not clear what kind of government you put in place of the one that’s currently there now. Is it going to be a Shia regime, a Sunni regime, a Kurdish regime? Or one that tilts toward the Baathists, or one that tilts toward Islamic fundamentalists? How much credibility is that going to have if it’s set up by the American military there? How long does the United States military have to stay there to protect the people that sign on for that government, and what happens once we leave?"

Smart man, that Cheney. The only problem is that he said that back in 1991 during the first Gulf War when he was secretary of defense in the administration of George H.W. Bush. At that time, Brent Scowcroft was national security adviser and James Baker was secretary of state. Recently, Scowcroft has said that though he has been friends with Cheney for more than 30 years, he no longer really knows him. What has happened to Cheney is anybody’s guess.

It can’t be 9/11. We know from many sources that Bush had decided to invade Iraq long before 9/11. In The Right Man, David Frum recounts being interviewed for a position by Michael Gerson, head Bush speechwriter and also policy adviser, not long after Bush became president. Gerson told Frum that Bush would topple Saddam. At that time nothing was being said about weapons of mass destruction.


31 posted on 11/19/2006 12:28:03 AM PST by Blue_Ridge_Mtn_Geek
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