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Sounds innocent enough--- nuclear material for medical purposes & plumbing found under a car in "what appeared" to be a pipe bomb & paint can...

WTF?!?!

ROP trial run?

1 posted on 11/18/2006 6:57:26 PM PST by melt
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To: melt

A test.


2 posted on 11/18/2006 7:02:12 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: melt

I wonder who was at the fair checking for radiation?


3 posted on 11/18/2006 7:02:54 PM PST by blam
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To: melt

Got too close to florescent lights or smoke alarms.


4 posted on 11/18/2006 7:03:06 PM PST by taxesareforever (Never forget Matt Maupin)
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To: melt
Sounds like a terror attack averted. Radioactive pipe bomb at a fairground. That is an expected scenario.
5 posted on 11/18/2006 7:04:13 PM PST by garjog (Used to be liberals were just people to disagree with. Now they are a threat to our existence.)
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To: melt

Did they ever find the Nuclear materials lost from Los Alamos National Laboratory http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/nation/20040625-1600-lab-missingkeys.html


7 posted on 11/18/2006 7:04:41 PM PST by AmericanMade1776 (Democrats don't have a plan)
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To: melt

Isn't New Mexico one of the states that we've tested bombs in? Maybe the level they recorded is the norm for that part of the state.


8 posted on 11/18/2006 7:06:13 PM PST by bws53
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To: melt

Illegal dumping.


9 posted on 11/18/2006 7:07:06 PM PST by SteveMcKing
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To: melt

The question is, what kind of radiation was detected, alpha,beta or gamma and in what ratio?

factoid: A granite countertop is detectabe with a Geiger counter.


15 posted on 11/18/2006 7:11:11 PM PST by IYAAYAS (Live free or die trying)
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To: melt
Nothing to see here people, move along!

OU death not linked to terrorism

OU bombing accidental, experts say

16 posted on 11/18/2006 7:12:12 PM PST by rawcatslyentist (When true genius appears, know him by this sign: all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.)
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To: melt

Did they check the Churro machine?


28 posted on 11/18/2006 7:37:36 PM PST by BurbankKarl
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To: Tijeras_Slim; CougarGA7; elkfersupper; CedarDave

WTF


29 posted on 11/18/2006 7:54:18 PM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: melt

Holy fudge.


32 posted on 11/18/2006 8:40:09 PM PST by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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To: melt
The objects, one appearing to be a pipe bomb and another that appeared to be a paint can, were found under a car parked near the fairground's fine arts building, Martinez said. One object was marked "nuclear" and the other, "cobalt," he said.

Police believe the radiation was coming from Cobalt 57, a material used in the medical and plumbing industries. Cobalt-57 is a radioactive poison used in biological research. A bomb squad unit and hazardous materials teams were searching the area for any additional devices. (

Sounds like someone found a radiological dirty bomb.

35 posted on 11/18/2006 8:43:52 PM PST by Centurion2000 (If the Romans had nukes, Carthage would still be glowing.)
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To: melt

I'm a long time lurker and learner here.(I have never posted before)
My son was at this fair grounds tonight.
He called us several hours ago to tell us they had to evacuate the building he was in.
He travels with a Christian organization that puts on Christian youth concerts around the country. When he was talking to my husband earlier he was told they(the authorites I imagine) smelled gas so they were told to turn off their cell phones.
He just called us back to say they had to pack up and were leaving, the event was called off. He pretty much said the same things the article said.
I guess this happening(bomb and nuclear waste news) will be buried somewhere on page 16b of tomorrows paper. Wonder how much of this stuff we never do hear about.


38 posted on 11/18/2006 8:50:02 PM PST by Mrs. Polifax
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To: BurbankKarl

ping


43 posted on 11/18/2006 9:24:54 PM PST by Cindy
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To: melt
This sounds like a job for former Energy Secretary Bill Richardson!

-PJ

47 posted on 11/18/2006 9:43:07 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (It's still not safe to vote Democrat.)
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To: melt
It's okay. Just another Los Alamos tech bringing their work home with them. Nothing to see here, it happens every day. Really /s
53 posted on 11/18/2006 10:26:54 PM PST by Colorado Doug
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To: melt
Geiger counter?

A hand held scintillator would be a far better device. You can also make scintillators that can directly detect alpha and neutrons as well.

A hand held gamma/beta scintillator normally uses a NaI(Tl) - Thallium doped Sodium Iodide - crystal/photomultiplier tube for detection and an alpha scintillator often uses a ZnS(Ag) - Silver activated zinc sulfide - coated Mylar (or similar material) film/photomultiplier for detection.

Neutron detectors are especially tricky. The following is a description for a portable neutron detector:

The detector, located within the probe housing, consists of 1/16th inch Plexiglas plates containing Li6 interfaces sandwiched between layers of ZnS(Ag). The detector is surrounded by a moderating shield consisting of a mixture of B10-Mn-Ti. This neutron moderator scatters and absorbs neutrons selectively with regard to their energy level. Within the crystal, most of those neutrons below 1 MEV strike the Li6 interfaces and produce alpha particles, which in turn strike the ZnS(Ag) interfaces and cause scintillations.

Above 1 MEV, most neutrons, thru proton recoil in the Plexiglas, produce proton particles, which strike the ZnS(Ag) interfaces, also cause scintillations.

These scintillations are carried thru a light pipe to a photomultiplier tube for counting. The entire assembly is housed inside a cadmium tube with heavy cadmium plates on each end. The assembled detector is then housed in a round steel housing about 10 inches long and 3 inches wide.

Note: a photomultiplier tube is a light sensitive device which converts the energy from photons to readable electrical signals.

54 posted on 11/18/2006 10:44:54 PM PST by RadioAstronomer
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To: melt

A less ominous explanation might be that the material is some contaminated scrap from Sandia National Lab, which is just a few blocks down the way. Perhaps scrap, perhaps some old specimens used in training people to use radiation monitors. The labeling would make more sense then.


78 posted on 11/19/2006 1:48:50 AM PST by TN4Liberty (Sixty percent of all people understand statistics. The other half are clueless.)
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