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To: Luke Skyfreeper; jude24; mockingbyrd; oyez; Elsiejay; napscoordinator; Chewie84; Salvation; ...
Sorry to have posted and left. Busy Saturday outdoor work.

Some excellent points:

I agree, school uniforms would solve much of these problems.

Also serious discipline and a real non political no nonsense curriculum program are a must. But that ain't happin' folks!

What seems to be happening at an accelerating rate is what Blue_Ridge_Mtn_Geek posted in 17.

My sister in law teaches 5th grade public 1 hour N of Atlanta. She's getting scared for her physical safety, and that's a "good" public school.

In the big cities it's a freepin war zone.

I heard a radio show 2+ years ago where the host read 10 questions from an 8th grade final exam from the year 1900. It was beyond tough.

Public school was outstanding then and remained so probably into the 60's in much of the country.

In the last 30 years it has collapsed into a pit. In another 30 years it may be Mad Max X: The School Warriors.

39 posted on 11/18/2006 4:13:32 PM PST by cpforlife.org (A Catholic Respect Life Curriculum is available at KnightsForLife.org)
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To: Luke Skyfreeper; jude24; mockingbyrd; oyez; Elsiejay; napscoordinator; Chewie84; Salvation
In post 39 I meant to say that you all made excellent points, but I didn't finish the sentence properly.

My bad.
41 posted on 11/18/2006 4:30:55 PM PST by cpforlife.org (A Catholic Respect Life Curriculum is available at KnightsForLife.org)
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"My sister in law teaches 5th grade public 1 hour N of Atlanta. She's getting scared for her physical safety, and that's a "good" public school."
My mother teaches second grade public. This year, things have been really tough for her, both because of her own class, which has its share of animals, and because of outside factors. For instance, she mentioned last week that it was recently discovered that a boy who she had taught last year was being beaten by his father. Upon hearing this, the boy's current teacher of course notified Child Welfare about it. Then, all of a sudden, on I believe Wednesday, the boy's father personally came to the school, confronted the teacher in question in the hallway, and loudly cursed her out in front of several students. Fortunately, that situation was peacefully handled, and that's so far been the closest thing to a physical threat against a teacher in that school (At least, that my mom was willing to tell me about).
44 posted on 11/18/2006 5:49:08 PM PST by Chewie84
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To: cpforlife.org

I have a reprint set of McGuffey's Readers, which were used for several generations. Back in the days when an 8th grade education was usually sufficient to prepare one for life.

It's hard to imagine what would happen if kids now were to read those books. In addition to classic language, the stories and poems are instructive and teach moral values.

Everyone interested in education should check them out. What a difference between them and the school books of today.


52 posted on 11/18/2006 9:53:41 PM PST by little jeremiah
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