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Mancow Special to Air on Fox (FoxNews slips into the sewer)
NewsMax.com ^ | 11-27-2006 | site

Posted on 11/17/2006 8:18:41 PM PST by unspun

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To: unspun

Unless you have access to the man's heart, I don't know if you can fairly judge whether or not he has reformed. And the fact that you are so concerned about his well-being may move you to pray for him.

But insisting that your taste in entertainment should be the standard is foolhardy. You will not win the argument that way. In fact, I'm more tempted to tune into his program to see if there is anything offensive there or not.

From what I saw on Fox and Friends in the past, he is not a debased human being. I find O'Reilley to be much more offensive to my sensibilities. And it is not up to me to crucify Mancow for deeds that I not only wasn't aware of, but they also did not affect me. I have no personal stake in the matter. I am not his judge.


61 posted on 11/18/2006 2:21:18 AM PST by Pan_Yans Wife
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To: unspun

Hater!


62 posted on 11/18/2006 2:25:25 AM PST by Pro-Bush (hater)
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To: Pan_Yans Wife

Accuse me of something I'm doing please; not what I'm not doing, PYW.

I don't care if you watch Muller and judging his eternal soul is God's business. I don't expect his Saturday evening show to be X-rated.

Maybe you'd like to reread what I've written and contrast that with what you think I've said?


63 posted on 11/18/2006 2:30:37 AM PST by unspun (What do you think? Please think, before you answer.)
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To: adorno

It's a Saturday night show, not a family show.

Don't people have more important things going on with our pathetic media to bitch about than THIS?


64 posted on 11/18/2006 2:30:44 AM PST by Jezebelle (Our tax dollars are paying the ACLU to sue the Christ out of us.)
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To: Pro-Bush
Hater!

If you love me, you'll hate my sin.

65 posted on 11/18/2006 2:31:48 AM PST by unspun (What do you think? Please think, before you answer.)
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To: Jezebelle
Jezebelle, it seems I've struck a nerve here.

Funny, Jezebel worshipped Moloch. There are some analogies there, not just being a man/kine, but I won't divert.

66 posted on 11/18/2006 2:34:25 AM PST by unspun (What do you think? Please think, before you answer.)
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To: unspun

I've read your posts.

I just do not feel that it is right to judge a program that I have not seen. I firmly believe in the power of the remote control, and I will say that 99% of what passes on television as interesting is garbage.

But that doesn't mean I'm going to go after the producers of Desperate Housewives or Larry King and DEMAND that they stop airing such drivel.

My brain is not easily swayed by the media. THUS, I'm not too concerned about what may or may not be aired on a machine that is NOT TURNED ON, DUE TO DISINTEREST!

By the same token, should I be attacking the LA Times for their hateful content? I don't think so! I'm not a subscriber, so I don't care what their reporters pass off as news.

Life is TOO short to get all worked up about Mancow. For that matter, I'm not too concerned about Darfur. You know why? There isn't much I can do about it!

I have a life.


67 posted on 11/18/2006 2:35:55 AM PST by Pan_Yans Wife
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To: Pan_Yans Wife
Again, I'm not demanding the things you say I am. Where are you getting this?

I'm not judging his show, either. I've said that he, Erich Muller should not be given the approbation of having a mainstream television show, unless he apologizes/renounces his atrocious prior abuse of the public airwaves and of young minds.

He has caused untold harm.

68 posted on 11/18/2006 2:41:21 AM PST by unspun (What do you think? Please think, before you answer.)
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To: unspun

You've struck a nerve? I wasn't even replying to you, and I have no idea what you posted.

*SHRUG*


69 posted on 11/18/2006 2:44:22 AM PST by Jezebelle (Our tax dollars are paying the ACLU to sue the Christ out of us.)
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To: unspun

Bug off - no love here freak.


70 posted on 11/18/2006 2:45:34 AM PST by Pro-Bush (hater)
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To: Jezebelle
*SHRUG*

No, that was Atlas, not Jezebel. ;-` Well, she probably did alot of that, too.

71 posted on 11/18/2006 2:46:40 AM PST by unspun (What do you think? Please think, before you answer.)
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To: Pro-Bush
Bug off - no love here freak.

You demonstrate that well.

72 posted on 11/18/2006 2:47:19 AM PST by unspun (What do you think? Please think, before you answer.)
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To: unspun

You're only judging him, not his show, even though he is the main component of his show? Is that what you mean to say? Yeah, how do you work that out in your brain?

And again, it is the judgement that concerns me. I cannot judge something that I haven't seen.

And if your mind is already set against the host of the show... odds are you are against the show in which you get to see the host perform. You do see that, don't you? That IS what you are saying.


73 posted on 11/18/2006 2:51:06 AM PST by Pan_Yans Wife
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To: Pan_Yans Wife
I'm not judging him, in the sense that I don't presume to judge anyone's ultimate state, damned or saved.

I do judge that it's simply a fact that he did what he did and said what he said on his radio and TV programs and those were very evil acts, harmful to many.

It's just as obvious that someone who has done such ill should apologize and renounce the kinds of things he did, otherwise we shouldn't hold him up to the world and say in effect, "Look at this man and how he gained mainsream celebrity. You too, can follow in his example!"

It's a matter of principle (or not).

74 posted on 11/18/2006 2:56:46 AM PST by unspun (What do you think? Please think, before you answer.)
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To: unspun
I read that FOX News had suffered from a 24% downturn in viewers over the past year. They've lost direction in the past few years and it's sad to see. We catch up on a lot of series based shows now instead. If FOX News wants an example of what's in store when they turn away from their base audience, they should talk to the Republican House and Senate.

Somehow I don't think they'll bother. The sad thing is elections come every two years. News networks are exceptionally rare and just about all of them are rat-based propaganda machines.

75 posted on 11/18/2006 3:00:33 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Caipirabob; Extremely Extreme Extremist
I've seen some of those numbers. Fox News actually lost ground to CNN and MS-NBC in 2005/2006.

I think some of that has to do with their missing-blonde-girl-of-the-week journalism that EEE mentioned.

I also tend to agree with you and would also point out that some of the fickle "centrists" have been in Iraq-is-a-bummer mode and joined the neo-peaceniks.

76 posted on 11/18/2006 3:17:43 AM PST by unspun (What do you think? Please think, before you answer.)
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To: unspun
"Look at this man and how he gained mainsream celebrity. You too, can follow in his example!"

Then your problem should be with FOX. Who knows what the content of his program will be like?

Personally, I cannot judge him, for I never saw what he did. It has no effect on my life.

I wish you luck in your crusade. But, I do think it will fall on deaf ears.

77 posted on 11/18/2006 3:29:09 AM PST by Pan_Yans Wife
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To: unspun
(It was played on the radio in my workplace, by a young man who later died of cocaine.)

So which of the following would you agree with:

Young man listens to Mancow which drives him to cocaine addiction.

Or

Cocaine addiction leads young man to listen to Mancow.

Somebody has a thumb up his anus alright...

78 posted on 11/18/2006 3:43:45 AM PST by metesky ("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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To: youngjim
I don't suppose you'd considered how offensive your tone could be to someone who disagrees with your definitions of morality.

That's funny, I was just thinking the same thing about you.

79 posted on 11/18/2006 3:50:39 AM PST by donna
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To: Pro-Bush
Hater!

How does having different standards of behavior than you have make someone a hater?

80 posted on 11/18/2006 3:54:25 AM PST by donna
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