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To: Behind Liberal Lines
The celebration of a mythical Thanksgiving did not happen in this country for several hundred years after the event ...
Brooke, you ignorant yankee. The first Thanksgiving took place in 1619 at the
Berkeley Plantation, Virginia.
To: Behind Liberal Lines
Yeah, the only holiday the Indians celebrated was the one to commemorate when those noble natives, the Iroquois, managed to completely wipe out their neighbors, the Eries. But they didn't have a word like genocide to throw around back then.
That and when they took some white captive to burn at the stake. That was always cause for a celebration, and a chance for the women to have a little fun with fire and teach the kids how to torture people.
Oops, I bet the prof never heard of that part...
26 posted on
11/17/2006 12:30:49 PM PST by
Kenton
To: Behind Liberal Lines
Miserable people who just can't shut up and enjoy a holiday...
27 posted on
11/17/2006 12:31:42 PM PST by
Lunatic Fringe
(Say "NO" to the Trans-Texas Corridor)
To: Behind Liberal Lines
As a retired college history teacher I can guarantee you that this kind of tripe originates in the misplaced pride of someone who thinks the ignorant masses don't know as much as he or she does. "Intellectuals" particularly those of a leftist persuasion--have an (ignorant) pride in what they think they know and presume radical positions on that knowledge to basically impress themselves, their peers, parents and perhaps their pets. Much of what originates from the academy in history is generally motivated by these same behaviors and it shameful that academics lack intellectual integrity to the extent that all they can do is to nod their heads in some sort of ideological consensus. History can be spun and there are many academics who have made lucrative careers in doing so.
28 posted on
11/17/2006 12:35:35 PM PST by
yetidog
To: Behind Liberal Lines
If we want to honor American Indians, we need to take a deep look at the genocide that was perpetrated against them, the dishonest taking of Indian lands, the horrific conditions that churches and the U.S. government put them through in the Native boarding schools, and the current struggles for land, sovereignty and cultural survival lose our shirts at one of their casinos.
29 posted on
11/17/2006 12:38:35 PM PST by
Argus
To: Behind Liberal Lines
Hanson sounds like he might be a racist and a bigot who has waaaaaay too much free time on his hands. He needs to get a REAL job. He doth whine too much.
31 posted on
11/17/2006 12:39:20 PM PST by
FlingWingFlyer
(America! It's off with the desert BDUs and on with the lavender burqas!!!)
To: Behind Liberal Lines
On an only partially related note, do we have an official FR Thanksgiving recipe thread this year?
32 posted on
11/17/2006 12:40:55 PM PST by
Buck W.
(If you push something hard enough, it will fall over.)
To: Behind Liberal Lines
I have Mohawk,Irish,Dutch, and Anglo ancestry. My nation backed the Brits in the revolution and got creamed for it. The Indians were not a peace loving people, they fought other Indian nations for land like any other empire of the time did. They allied with various colonial powers to fight the others for privilege from the allied power. About the best way I can put it is imagine 200 years from now you are reading a text book about Iraq and it refers to the Iraqi's "as a peace loving people who never quarreled with each other until the imperialist Americans ventured in" same shit has happened with the Indians.
Have a happy thanksgiving and rejoice that our for fathers overcame a enemy whose sole aim was total domination of the land by any means necessary and I ain't talking about the British, because with out them we may be speaking Mohawk right now :)
35 posted on
11/17/2006 12:44:43 PM PST by
spikeytx86
(Pray for Democrats for they have been brainwashed by their fruity little club.)
To: Behind Liberal Lines
"If we want to honor American Indians, we need to take a deep look at the genocide that was perpetrated against them, the dishonest taking of Indian lands, the horrific conditions that churches and the U.S. government put them through in the Native boarding schools . . . "
If there had been genocide, we wouldn't have given them land and they wouldn't now exist in greater numbers than before the "genocide." Yes, things were done then - such as the boarding schools - which now seem wrong, but they were considered benign and even enlightened by the people who implemented those policies.
The conquest of the American Indian only seems barbarous because it was one of the most recent historical instances of that particular type of conquest, and a relatively benign form, compared to most conquests known to history. And how can we have "taken" lands for which - by the Indians' own admission - they had no concept of ownership?
36 posted on
11/17/2006 12:45:46 PM PST by
Steve_Seattle
("Above all, avoid the moor, where the powers of darkness are exalted.")
To: Behind Liberal Lines
The Liberal Creed
1) Every country but this one is wonderful, especially France.
2) Every time but this one was wonderful, except here.
3) If you feel good about your country or yourself, you are not fully educated.
4) If you are not riddled with self-doubt as to what is right and what is wrong, then you think in dangerous black-and-whites and must be a evil Bible thumper.
5) If you do not feel guilty about all the horrible things your ancestors did that you are responsible for, you must be an evil white Republican.
6) If you are in some way enjoying your life, it must be because you are exploiting others, and you need to be fined a great deal of money to be given to others who didn't work for it.
7) If you have ever been fired because you didn't show up, didn't speak the language, couldn't do basic math, were disrespectful of customers and coworkers, it must be management's fault.
8) You may worship only the God of Tolerance. You have no right to an opinion on anything mentioned above if it in any way would make others feel bad about themselves, because we want everyone to feel positively about themselves, you ignorant, evil, small-minded, wicked, judgmental, bigoted, privileged, elitist, Christian bastard.
37 posted on
11/17/2006 12:47:05 PM PST by
50sDad
(I respect other religions by allowing them the right to worship. But they still are wrong.)
To: Behind Liberal Lines
Harvest festivals have been celebrated around the world for millennia, long before anybody landed a ship in what is euphemistically known as the 'New World'.
Thanksgiving is nothing new and greatly predates even the invention of writing. Over the centuries, these festivals have been accompanied by rituals, and feasting, and general merry-making to the point of excess.
Why does anyone begrudge the self-satisfied bourgeoise a day, or a long weekend, of excess of food consumption, football watching, and yes, exuberance in vulgar display in conjunction with extravagance in conspicuous wastefulness. Got to hand to it to a society that knows how to indulge themselves.
40 posted on
11/17/2006 12:48:16 PM PST by
alloysteel
(Facts do not cease to exist, just because they are ignored. - Aldous Huxley)
To: Behind Liberal Lines
Screw the Indians. If they were not strong enough to keep their lands then they don't deserve them. To the victors go the spoils.
43 posted on
11/17/2006 12:50:15 PM PST by
LetsRok
To: Behind Liberal Lines
If we want to honor American Indians, we need to tell them the gig is up..Get over it!! Victimology keeps them at the bottom of the education and lifestyle rankings, while keeping them at the top of the crime rankings, and dim-witted associate professors are perpetuating hope of a day gone by giving thanks for the wind. The Blacks are getting it, and succeeding.
45 posted on
11/17/2006 12:51:55 PM PST by
Melinda
To: Behind Liberal Lines
Just give it a rest..I am so sick and tired of these liberal atheist writing anything about my country..always trying to start something on race based crap..Anyway I am going to have a great thanksgiving with my family and friends this year and will not even think about this pinko..My Indian great,great grandmother never taught racism she loved everyone..
48 posted on
11/17/2006 12:55:14 PM PST by
Beth528
To: Behind Liberal Lines
Just like Lisa Simpson
53 posted on
11/17/2006 1:04:55 PM PST by
Lunatic Fringe
(Say "NO" to the Trans-Texas Corridor)
To: Behind Liberal Lines
What an AZZHAT!
It's a day to thank God for all our blessings not the least of which is living in and being a citizen of The United States of America.
To: Behind Liberal Lines
Everybody knows that American Indians were bucolic flower-smellers before the evil white devils showed up. But the revenge of the one-armed bandits is sweet...
To: Behind Liberal Lines
And another America hating, capitalism hating, leftist windbag raises their ugly head.
57 posted on
11/17/2006 1:12:32 PM PST by
BadAndy
(Speaking truth to wackos)
To: Behind Liberal Lines
Translation: All different tribes of Indian equate to one race, therefore since one tribe of Indians died at wounded Knee, all Indian Tribes were murdered.
It's classic spin off the Feminist: If one woman is beaten, then all women are being beaten.
59 posted on
11/17/2006 1:14:50 PM PST by
Alia
To: Behind Liberal Lines
In Canada, we simply give thanks for a good harvest -- no Pilgrims or Indians involved. It's always celebrated on the second Monday of October.
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