Posted on 11/16/2006 6:26:40 PM PST by shrinkermd
bump for later read.
Ping to an interesting article by Paul Johnson
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And not only to science, but to all the world of mankind's artifice. Without perception in that dimension, all of our creation is mere black and white scribblings, instead of beautifully colored portrayals of our dreams.
That's exactly what some of the issues have been over when you get into embryonic stem cell research, organ transplants, and chimeras. The problem is, when religious folks object to these immoral aspects they are painted as being anti-science Luddites which is not the case. I have yet to meet a person who is truly anti-science, but I've sure met a lot of people who are anti abuse and misuse of science. Unfortunately, some have trouble seperating the two groups out.
Kevin Federline ??
Paul Johnson on the need for art ping.
Richard Dawkins, in his book The God Delusion, appears to argue that belief in God disables anyone from practicing science...
That's not quite what he said but it's close enough. It is also such a profoundly silly position that I cannot imagine anyone not desperate to fill the Void with his own ego taking it. Do I need to cite more than Albert Einstein in refutation?
[Goethe]observed: Whoever possesses art and science has religion too, and whoever possesses neither of them had better have religion.
It is, after all, art and science that are within that little circle of candlelight - not to be despised, because they make us what we are and fill the circle with humanity. But it is religion that deals with what remains in the Void, and if it does not, what does is the weird amalgam of supersition and intellectual hobgoblins that seems to animate today's secular left. One may ignore eternity but that doesn't make it go away.
We're young as species go. Give us a few million years and we'll do fine...
K-Fed is an example of reverse evolution...
Huh? You mean like a new design for a toaster? IOW, what the heck is "brutal technological adventurism"? Does "technological adventurism" mean R & D? And what's meant by "brutal"? Is the newly perfected toaster "brutal" because it can burn the bread you're trying to toast? Is it "brutal" b/c you can electrocute someone using a fork to try and dig out a stuck English muffin?
Even as guns don't shoot themselves, nor toasters toast the bread whenever and however it pleases, technology is a tool -- just a tool. It hasn't the power to corrupt, deprave, or destroy us. Only we do.
It's called jihad on human nature. Fight back or you're toast.
I agree. It's actually ironic that those who define themselves as secular truth seekers often close their minds to anything that doesn't fit with their world view. They are not really seeking truth, but are actually acting in accordance with their own restrictive belief system. It's a lot more difficult to rationally explain why anything exists when you discount spirituality. I would argue that it is the most rational conclusion to believe that there is a reason we exist. It seems incredibly irrational to think otherwise. I know there is God as or more clearly than I know that there is blood in my circulation. I don't know the details, but then I'm only human.
And yet it remains the measure of the human spirit that we try nontheless.
Since when is morality necessary for survival? Humans have survived and flourished for tens of thousands of years with only a fraction of what we consider morality today. Who cares if humans are weak creatures, compared to some ideal? We only have to be strong enough to survive and we've already proven ourselves.
I just quoted the comment from the article and I gave some examples; you need to reread the post. Technology isn't just about manufacturing items, it can refer to these half human half animal hybrids that are being discussed and pursued.
Thanks.
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