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700 Carnival Passengers Struck Down… (Getting the norovirus on a cruise ship means house arrest)
The South Florida Sun-Sentinel ^ | November 16, 2006 | Sofia Santana and Bob LaMendola

Posted on 11/16/2006 2:01:34 PM PST by quidnunc

By the time Carnival Cruise Lines' Liberty pulls into Port Everglades this weekend from a transatlantic voyage, more than 700 people on board will have been afflicted with a highly contagious, stomach flu-like illness that appears to be norovirus, the cruise line said Wednesday.

The outbreak could be the largest reported in recent years by the cruise industry.

"It's impossible for now to say what the source is," said David Forney, chief of the cruise ship sanitation program at the national Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. He said it's likely passengers brought the virus with them when they boarded and it spread from there, but U.S. inspectors will look at whether food or water contributed to the outbreak.

The cruise industry, which is required to report the illnesses to the CDC, records dozens of viral outbreaks annually, with most affecting fewer than 100 people.

While often publicized, the cruise ship outbreaks are far less common than they seem, affecting about one in every 3,600 cruise ship passengers, said Christine Fischer, spokeswoman for the International Council of Cruise Lines, an industry lobbying group.

"Your chances of actually contracting norovirus are much higher on land than on a cruise," she said.

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TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: checkahmedthesteward; norwalkvirus; projectilediarrhea; projectilevomit
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Last June my wife and I took a tour to Alaska which culminated with a cruise back to Vancouver via the Inland Passage via a Holland America vessel.

The ship's crew was fanatical about sanitation; you couldn't board the ship or enter a dining space without using hand sanitizer.

The crew wouldn't even shake hands with passengers or fellow crewmen, they bumped elbows.

Regardless, I caught the norovirus on the last day of the voyage, probably at an Indian heritage village in Ketchikan.

The doctor came to our cabin and gave me some Pepto Bismo and gave us a legal notice confining both my wife and I to our cabins (she never did display any symptoms).

So far everything is understandable but what was troubling to me was that the Oriental doctor gave me an injection of something — probably to decrease digestive-tract motility — without taking a medical history or even asking whjat medications I was currently taking.

Upon disembarkation we were segregated along with some other ill passengers and herded off the ship separately.

As compenstaion we received $100/day and free cabin service.

In light of the fact that it was almost impossible to find a quiet place on the ship away from noise, waiters/waitresses trying to sell you drinks or that infernal squaking PA system blaring at you, nothing could induce me to board one of those lazar ships agin.

1 posted on 11/16/2006 2:01:37 PM PST by quidnunc
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To: quidnunc

I've been getting calls from Carnival at dinnertime.

Finally, lastinight, I answered the phone. They wanted to know if they can plan my next vacation. I said, I was not going on vacation anytime soon. Then she asked when I might be going, and I told her to call me back in a few years.


2 posted on 11/16/2006 2:05:01 PM PST by hsmomx3 (Steelers in '07--Go BIG BEN!!!)
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To: quidnunc
>the Oriental doctor gave me an injection of something ...


3 posted on 11/16/2006 2:05:56 PM PST by theFIRMbss
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To: quidnunc

"He said it's likely passengers brought the virus with them when they boarded"

They always say the passenger brought it on. Absolves them of some blame and the extra costs regular decontaminations of onboard drinking water systems.


4 posted on 11/16/2006 2:06:44 PM PST by Shermy
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To: quidnunc
He said it's likely passengers brought the virus with them when they boarded and it spread from there
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"Your chances of actually contracting norovirus are much higher on land than on a cruise," she said.


Uh huh...
5 posted on 11/16/2006 2:09:06 PM PST by kenth (There are three kinds of people in the world. Those who can count, and those who can't.)
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To: quidnunc
"it was almost impossible to find a quiet place on the ship away from noise, waiters/waitresses trying to sell you drinks or that infernal squaking PA system blaring at you"

Seems to me that you found such a place on your last day of the voyage.

6 posted on 11/16/2006 2:09:08 PM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: quidnunc

Why would anyone want to take a cruise on one of these ships? In addition to the boredom of sitting on a boat off the coast of an exotic land instead of actually being in the exotic land, there apparently is a very real chance of contracting some life-threatening bacteria or virus in the closed ship environment. I paid for my mother to go on a couple of these with her girl-friends this year - she was bored, but at least she didn't get sick. The next trip those ladies will take will be a Kenyan safari - no more boats.


7 posted on 11/16/2006 2:09:28 PM PST by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: quidnunc

I have this picture of the gangway being dropped and a river of puke splashing down it onto the docks...


8 posted on 11/16/2006 2:10:29 PM PST by pabianice
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To: Shermy

Well, it's entirely possible.

A highly contagious thing gets on a closed system of closely packed people, and it can spread like wildfire. Serious flus and plagues have spread like wildfire in very open areas.

In any case, it is not encouraging. Makes you wonder what disease-ridden person you're getting on board with who'll knock everyone flat.


9 posted on 11/16/2006 2:11:12 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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To: AnotherUnixGeek

Oh yeah, Kenya is real clean and non-toxic!


10 posted on 11/16/2006 2:12:16 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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To: kenth
In a real case of irony, a few weeks ago there was a norovirus outbreak on a local casino riverboat. It seems to have been centered around the local Region Avian Flu conference.
11 posted on 11/16/2006 2:12:40 PM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: pabianice

I absolutely hate puking. I'm obsessed with it, as my parents would tell you. I avoid stomach-sick people at all costs. Not very loving when it comes to that. Not only fear myself getting it, but it's just absolutely disgusting and the sight/sound makes me sick by itself! Other sick people, I will nurse them and entertain.

Puking - forget it! :O

Being on a ship surrounded by stomach-sickies - I would be apoplectic if not sick myself!


12 posted on 11/16/2006 2:15:17 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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To: quidnunc

We had an out break at a local grade school, that spread to several of the other schools, as well. They said that the virus seems to originate in shell fish, leading most people to believe that it may have started on the local Indian reservation, which claims the rights to all the shell fishing in the area and had a lot of kids at that particular grade school.


13 posted on 11/16/2006 2:16:18 PM PST by Eva
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robertpaulsen wrote: ("it was almost impossible to find a quiet place on the ship away from noise, waiters/waitresses trying to sell you drinks or that infernal squaking PA system blaring at you") Seems to me that you found such a place on your last day of the voyage.

There's no way to get away from the PA system, even in your cabin.

It's probably a maritime regulation to ensure that everybody hears emergency announcements.

14 posted on 11/16/2006 2:16:57 PM PST by quidnunc (Omnis Gaul delenda est)
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To: hsmomx3

Cruises - The over fed, the newly wed and the almost dead.

I'll take a pass!


15 posted on 11/16/2006 2:21:30 PM PST by yobid (If there were no Islam, there would relative peace on Earth)
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To: kenth

I want to know how many illegals are working on those ships? No one ever talks about the strains of TB and everything else they may bring into the U.S.A.


16 posted on 11/16/2006 2:29:09 PM PST by hsmomx3 (Steelers in '07--Go BIG BEN!!!)
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To: AnotherUnixGeek

"The next trip those ladies will take will be a Kenyan safari - no more boats."

What I love about those safaris is with either a rifle or a camera you get to shoot something.


17 posted on 11/16/2006 2:31:28 PM PST by EQAndyBuzz (I thank the RNC for freeing me to vote my values rather then political party. It is liberating!)
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To: theFIRMbss

LOL!


18 posted on 11/16/2006 2:32:02 PM PST by SIDENET (Everybody was kung-fu fighting)
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To: quidnunc
If anyone EVER tried to confine me they had better be armed. Period. Better ten years in jail with some security drone's nads in my pocket than ONE SECOND of giving in.
19 posted on 11/16/2006 2:35:18 PM PST by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, Deport all illegals, abolish the IRS, ATF and DEA)
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To: yobid

I've been on 5 cruises and have two more booked and I've never been sick on any of them.
I'm not over fed or newly wed and I hope I'm not almost dead.
I do agree with your tag line though.


20 posted on 11/16/2006 2:38:24 PM PST by taillightchaser (!)
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