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1 posted on 11/16/2006 10:22:36 AM PST by Mia T
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To: freema

thanks again for the article. :)


2 posted on 11/16/2006 10:24:16 AM PST by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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She better talk to Jesse Jackass about that!.......


3 posted on 11/16/2006 10:24:25 AM PST by Red Badger (New! HeadOn Hemorrhoid Medication for Liberals!.........Apply directly to forehead.........)
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To: Mia T

But, but, Bubba was the man from "Hope".

I am so confused.


9 posted on 11/16/2006 10:28:23 AM PST by Names Ash Housewares
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To: Mia T

I loved the State Department guy's come back to Hilly.

"Neither is despair"


13 posted on 11/16/2006 10:37:13 AM PST by MNJohnnie (I do not forgive Senator John McCain for helping destroy everything we built since 1980.)
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To: Mia T
I hate to break it to ya'll, but she's right. Hope is not a method nor a strategy. Neither is despair, granted, but the current strategy could use a healthy dose of realism. People like to talk about how it took 10 years in Germany and Japan after WWII, but they're ignoring the basic fact that Arabs are NOT German nor are they Japanese. Completely different cultures with completely different mindsets.

The current plan would work swimmingly if the Iraqi people gave half a damn about their (meager) existences. They don't; they merely worry about which tribe or sect this or that person is with and whether he/she should be killed (either due simply to their affiliation or in retribution). The IA and IPs (except for the Kurds) follow the same pattern. There is very, very little loyalty to the idea of a unified Iraq. We, as Americans, can't change that perception. We can't want it more for them than they want it for themselves. It is literally that simple. I hate the Clintons as much as anyone else around here, but her statement is not without some logic. What's happening now and how it could be better handled is beautifully outlined in Ralph Peter's article Arabian Nightmare.

Americans see this in one way, but the Arab mentality is vastly different (and inferior) from ours. Unfortunately, since it's their country and their region of the world, it's their viewpoint and subsequent actions that matter.

21 posted on 11/16/2006 10:53:33 AM PST by Future Snake Eater (My Savior beat up your Prophet!)
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To: Mia T

Bump for later.


22 posted on 11/16/2006 11:01:45 AM PST by Brian Allen ("Moral issues are always terribly complex, for someone without principles." - G K Chesterton)
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Hortatory talk about what the Iraqi government must do is getting old.

hor·ta·to·ry adj. Marked by exhortation or strong urging: a hortatory speech.

Thank you, Missus Clinton. You gave me a reason to look up a hoity-toity word. Now go back to your hortatory.

26 posted on 11/16/2006 11:26:32 AM PST by AZLiberty (In Hillary's view they're not Illegal immigrants and convicted felons, but disenfranchised Democrats)
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To: Mia T
Great article from MiaT.

I thought the Arkansas Grifters " believe in a place called hope" This is just the beginning, folks.

35 posted on 11/16/2006 3:52:20 PM PST by Cincinna (HILLARY & HER HINO " We are going to take things away from you for the Common Good ")
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Hope is a town that Bill claim to be from but grew up elsewhere.


40 posted on 11/16/2006 4:22:29 PM PST by bmwcyle (The snake is loose in the garden and Eve just bit the apple.)
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If hope is not a strategy, is The Audacity of Hope a strategy?

;=)

42 posted on 11/16/2006 4:52:28 PM PST by FlyVet
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"Hope is not a strategy. Hortatory talk about what the Iraqi government must do is getting old. ... The brutal fact is it is not happening."

The only things getting old are Bill and Hillary. They will be gone one day. Permanently. Americans will live on.

Life is good that way.

53 posted on 11/17/2006 8:12:30 PM PST by PGalt
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To: Mia T
"Hope is not a strategy. Hortatory talk about what the Iraqi government must do is getting old. ... The brutal fact is it is not happening."

The only things getting old are Bill and Hillary. They will be gone one day. Permanently. Americans will live on.

Life is good that way.

54 posted on 11/17/2006 8:12:38 PM PST by PGalt
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