Jonestown tragedy had liberal roots

http://mensnewsdaily.com/2006/11/16/jonestown-tragedy-had-liberal-roots/ ^

[zippy the razor]

Jones is sometimes described as a religious fanatic, as a man who used faith to do monstrous things. The truth is his faith wasn’t, as many presume, in Christianity. He believed in Marx more than in Christ.

Jones baptized people “in the holy name of socialism” and called himself the Socialist Worker God.

[domenad]

This is not a revelation, the guy was known for his socialist and Marxist writings and rantings. He viewed with suspicion church members that did not readily donate their wives for sexual congress - not giving their all, I guess. Read the book "Raven", it's freaky as hell.

[Obadiah]

I have read detailed accounts of the early history of Jamestown. Indeed, the roots of modern liberalism may be traced here primarily, along with many recorded early disasters. Coincidence?

[stevie_d_64]

My heart bleeds purple kool-aid for them (him)...

[widowithfoursons]

Whoa; are you sure this is about "JAMEStown""?

[conservativeharleyguy]

Hence the name: People's Church

[mc5cents]

Whoa; are you sure this is about "JAMEStown""?

Yea, there for a minute I thought that it said Jamestown and was thinking that now we find out that liberalism causes floods too?! What next... :)

[ansel12]

Here is another important church of the religious left.

"Miami Mayor Xavier Suarez declared October 7, 1990, "Yahweh ben Yahweh Day."


http://www.crimelibrary.com/notorious_murders/classics/yahweh_cult/index.html

[Sybeck1]

I rememeber pictures of him and Rosalyn Carter.

[firewalk]

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[Obadiah]

D'Oh! My apologies. Brain misfire. I was talking about Jamestown, but the article referred to Jonestown.

[dfwgator]

Jim Jones was a full-blown Commie.

[GreyFriar]

ping

[conservatism_IS_compassion]

Jones wanted his followers to learn Russian. He’d left instructions for assets to be sent to the Soviet Union.

. . . Former Vice President Hubert Humphrey said that Jones’ work “is testimony to the positive and truly Christian approach to dealing with the myriad problems confronting our society today.”

. . . Joseph Califano . . . Walter Mondale . . . Jimmy Carter’s wife, Rosalynn . . . all had good words to say for Jones.

Funny how none of that made the headlines back in the day!

[rabidralph]

And his church was in San Francisco before it went to Guyana. He had many friends in politics up there.

[brazzaville]

Good morning.

Jones first came here to Redwood Valley in the mid '60s and brought many Bay Area inner city people with him. They started to buy property and opened a church a couple of miles from my home.

My wife lost cousins at Jonestown and I know several others who lost family. Before the county closed it to save money, Jones' old church building was my polling place.

Everyone I know says that Jones helped many people at first but I say that he was a straight forward socialist and mad as a hatter from the beginning.

Michal Frazier

[conservatism_IS_compassion]

Jonestown Massacre: November 18, 1978

[dmz]

Does severe mental illness really have a political ideology behind it? One does not have 900 of your followers commit murder/suicide without some pretty serious screws loose.

I put Koresh in the same category. More important that the followers die than to lose the power and authority he wielded over his followers.

[brazzaville]

Good morning.

The 900 suicides at Jonestown were just that, suicides. Why those deluded people did what they did is incomprehensible to most sane people.

The Davidians were shot and burned to death by an incompetent, out of control government agency that botched an unnecessary raid that was more about taxes and budgets than anything else. Another out of control agency then cleaned up the mess.

They were both religious groups. Other than that, their ends are not even similar.

Michael Frazier