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Condemnation of others is consciously harming others. It is part of the problem and the pain in this world - and those who engage in it are part of the problem, imo.

Nonsense.

The entire experience of mankind puts paid to that invalid tautology. Condemnation is a necessary part of man's existence. Government cannot function without the ability to make condemnation. Seeing as how you've listed this as an opinion, i state my opinion that those who don't make judgements are naive fools who have no understanding of reality.

Do you condemn Hitler? Stalin? Pol Pot? Mao?

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Of course not. That's the whole point. Condemnation, hatred, vengence, attack are for God to do. That doesn't mean I wouldn't lock them up. You are reaching for such extreme examples - do you equate Rick Warren with Hitler?

Will you knock it off with the disagreement=hatred already? That was disproven long ago, and demonstrated to be nothing more than your condemnation of critics of Rick Warren.

Even with this statement you're being inconsistent. Lock them up? For what? Shouldn't they be condemned (judged) before you go locking them up? You really need to think that one out, 6 Million Jews, 7 million European Gentiles of various ethnicities, 20 million Soviet Citizens in WWII, 30 million Soviet Citizens killed by Stalin, 2 million Cambodian citizens killed by the Kuhmer Rouge under Pol Pot, and untold millions of Chinese would demand that you do so...funny, all those were supposedly non-judgemental Atheistic societies (with the exception of Hitler's Germany, which was pagan in it's upper levels). Take that into consideration before you talk about how Christians who take an errant 'minister' to task are acting like Muslims.

You are reaching for such extreme examples - do you equate Rick Warren with Hitler?

i'm not reaching at all. i'm merely testing your thesis. The technique is called Reducto Ad Absurdum. Your thesis is found wanting.

I'll repeat it again. Condemnation harms others. Do you understand that?

"Any lie told often enough will be believed"...Joseph Goebbels.

Not this time. Condemnation requires judgement. If the judgement is valid, the condemnation is valid. Since you've stated repeatedly that you don't want to discuss dogma...while persistently asserting dogma...not quite cricket...you have no basis to condemn the condemnation, and your own condemnation makes you hypocritical.

And if so, do you feel that you are specially authorized in some way from God to harm others? And if so, why?

Rick Warren has been harmed by no one except himself, by his own actions, and his own statements. Your question has no basis in fact, and is meaningless.

You have said nothing. I wonder what your point is? Seriously. Are you honestly wanting to say that the history of mankind shows that there is no pain or suffering here? Or that condemnation doesn't contribute to pain and suffering?

I'll ask again - do you understand that condemnation hurts? Do you understand what I am talking about when I use the word condemnation?

Others that are writing at this time - acknowledge that condemnation does hurt but they think it is ok to hurt others. What is your belief about condemnation? And I am not talking about what government does - I am talking about when one person condemns another as has been demonstrated here by those on this thread who condemn Rick Warren.

Your posts about talking doctrine are tiring. I am talking about what I want to talk about. Others have wanted me to discuss *their* doctrine.