Posted on 11/16/2006 4:22:15 AM PST by peyton randolph
With the resignation of Republican National Committee Chair Ken Mehlman, President Bush intends to fill the post with Florida's Mel Martinez, a Hispanic who led the battle in the U.S. Senate for amnesty for illegal aliens.
"Martinez is going to lead the fight for amnesty that Bush could not win when Republicans controlled the Congress," one angry RNC member told The Washington Times' Ralph Hallow.
Unable to extract an amnesty bill from Denny Hastert and Co. in the House like the McCain-Kennedy bill he supports, Bush is looking to cut a deal with San Francisco Nancy.
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(Excerpt) Read more at realclearpolitics.com ...
"There is no substantial support for mass deportation"...in Media, churches, academia and amongst liberal politicians. If they would quit telling the people how they should think, this option would be on the table within a few years.
I read the Ike plan. Now multiply it by twentyfold.
We won't spend two billion to build a fence. How are we going to spend twenty billion to build an entire infrastructure and beaurocracy to support it?
Oh, and now with a Democrat led house and senate.
Because it would first secure the border. Then it would require illegals to leave. Only then after proper screening and a job would they be allowed to come back. You think the Pelosi plan will do that?
We can't give up. This is the SOUL of our Nation. Start to get organized. We've got to form resistance via emails, phones, faxes...
According to NumbersUSA the election removed more pro amnesty candidates.
"11.5% of all Republican seats in Congress were lost as Democrats took back control of Congress
But only 6.7% of the Members of Tancredo's Immigration Reform Caucus lost their seats.
Loss of Election by Republicans Based on Their
Immigration-Reduction Grade of This Congress
9.6% with an A grade lost
25.0% with an F grade lost
9.2% with a B grade lost
6.4% with a C grade lost
9.5% with a D grade lost"
Will have to look for the link, but one analysis I read of the election stated that NOT ONE Republican candidate that ran on a restrictionist (anti-amnesty) immigration platform won.
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Maybe that's because the RNC didn't fund them or help them. We're being skrewwwed by our own party.
The solution to the problem, clear and simple:
Make the companies that employ the ILLEGAL ALIENS pay every penny of their education, healthcare, be responsible for all criminal acts that they commit.
End of problem, no jobs, no aliens.
Why should a Bush Pelosi Amnesty surprize anyone ? When Bush campaigned he never mentioned illegal immigration,or for that matter any conservative position. His appointment of a Bush family crony, Martinez who favors amnesty, to head the RNC is great news. We should be able to bring in cheap labor from Mexico after all we need them to save the ponsey scheme known as social security.
We let this thing get out of hand when we didn't close the borders after the Reagan amnesty. Now the Pelosi-Bush amnesty progam plus Dems want to halt fence construction and border point control. If we do not penalize those illegals who've snuck in here since then, we send a wrong message to anyone else who wants to sneak in here. While we can't send them all back, we should be able to target areas where illegals have severly impacted employment of US citizens and begin there.
http://www.theusmat.com/
Whatever Happened to Mike Pence?
by Phyllis Schlafly
June 28, 2006
Despite the consistent failure of all guest worker plans (e.g., France), Rep. Mike Pence (R-IN) is peddling a new plan to import foreign workers who really are guests and really do go home. Pence has turned his back on the 88 percent of House Republicans who voted that we must achieve border security first, because we'll be cheated on border security if Congress passes a "comprehensive" bill.
The Pence plan tries to avoid the amnesty label by requiring illegal aliens now in the U.S. to make what he calls "a quick trip across the border" to Mexico or Canada to pick up a new W visa. A foreigner could get a W visa only if a U.S. employer certifies that a job awaits him.
Pence's plan calls for setting up privately financed offices outside the U.S., with the cutesy title Ellis Island Centers, to hand out the new W visas, which he claims would be more efficient than government bureaucracy. Business would, indeed, be more efficient than government in importing more foreign workers.
Having private employment agencies distribute the W visas would put the fox in charge of the chicken coop. Private industry has a built-in incentive to import as much cheap labor as possible.
Pence says that the Ellis Island Centers will be able to match workers with jobs, perform health screening, fingerprinting, and convey information to the FBI and Homeland Security for a background check in "a matter of one week, or less." We'll have to see that to believe it.
What about the millions of illegal aliens in the U.S. today who do not have an employer willing to go on record as guaranteeing a job for a foreigner? These would include the relatives of jobholders, the day laborers, and the millions of illegal aliens working in the U.S. underground cash economy (an estimated 40 percent of the total).
Pence's bill is silent on this and his staff predicts that the free market will provide the answers. Pence told Time Magazine his bill "will require the 12 million illegal aliens to leave."
What about the hundreds of thousands of illegal aliens who are not Mexicans? Illegal aliens will not have to return to their home country, but only appear at an Ellis Island Center anywhere outside the U.S. to pick up their papers. Will Mexico and Canada put out the welcome mat for a mass exodus of illegal aliens from the U.S.?
The Pence plan provides that the guest workers, after living here legally for six years under the protection of a W visa, can choose whether to apply for citizenship or to return home. If guest workers don't apply for citizenship, will Pence hire buses to deport them after they have raised a family and established roots?
Six years is ample time to have a U.S.-born anchor baby, or two or three, which starts family chain migration. Any attempt to deal with the racket of birthright citizenship would linger at least six years in the courts.
The Pence promise that employers would have to offer jobs to Americans first is a sick joke. American engineers and computer techies who lost their jobs to foreigners under the H-1B visa guest-worker racket know that a look-for-Americans-first rule is never enforced and easily evaded.
Pence revealed an amazing open-ended part of his plan in his Wall Street Journal article: "My immigration reform plan does not favor illegal immigrants. Anyone may apply for a guest-worker visa at the new Ellis Island Centers; indeed, the plan may actually work to the advantage of applicants who have never violated our immigration laws, since guest-worker visas will be issued only outside the U.S."
Anyone may apply? From anywhere in the world? And without any limits? Pence wrote, "There will initially be no cap on the number of visas that can be issued."
The Pew Hispanic Center surveyed 120 locations in Mexico and concluded that 49 million Mexicans want to live in the United States if they get the opportunity.
If Pence's "guest worker" plan actually worked, and the guests voluntarily go home after six years, it would mean instituting a system that is immoral and un-American. Inviting foreigners to come to America to do jobs that Americans think they are too good to do creates a subordinate underclass of unassimilated foreign workers, like the serf or peasant classes that exist in corrupt foreign countries such as Mexico.
That's not the kind of economy that made America a great nation. As Theodore Roosevelt warned: "Never under any condition should this nation look at an immigrant as primarily a labor unit."
Pence and others who promote "guest worker" plans have a favorite mantra: "Let the free market solve our economic problems." Americans should realize that a global, or even a Western Hemisphere free market, means forcing American workers to compete with people who work for 50 cents an hour.
Letting the free market decide our future also requires loss of sovereignty to some kind of multinational government, as the European Union found out. Is the real push behind guest-worker proposals the Bush goal to expand NAFTA into the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America, which he signed at Waco last year and reaffirmed at Cancun this year?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1660515/posts
You are correct. I just fail to understand how Mr. Bush could read the mood of his constituancy so badly and so often.
Me thinks he is selling us down the highway.
don't like the IKE plan....okay, read #47...another good plan
It seems to me there is a true disconnect at the top. Its like what the base wants the party elites do the opposite. If they are so smart why are we losing?
"allowing his wife" she is an adult and it is her decision. I do however disapprove of her beliefs. As for Mel, what do you expcect? He came to the U.S. under the one foot rule. A cuban that puts one foot on American soil is automatically entitled to be legal. Thus they can get thousands in assistance. A million of thse are now living in Florida.
He is one of my two Florida senators and both suck.
As for Mr. Bush he has squandered any mandate he arrived with by letting too much money be spent on any and everything, failing to push partial birth abortion at the very least. And allowing the press free reign at evicerating his every move.
So then get going and start supporting a party which does not dissapoint you. Don't waste your time with the GOP. The party has been corrupted. Conservatives do not have to settle for second best. That's just a media/lib lie.
RNC was deliberately gutting candidates with strong border issues.
RE: #47 "The solution to the problem, clear and simple:
Make the companies that employ the ILLEGAL ALIENS pay every penny of their education, healthcare, be responsible for all criminal acts that they commit.
End of problem, no jobs, no aliens."
I am not advocating amnesty. However, I do not see a 2006 plan to address it except the Liberals let them all in and the Conservatives throw them all out, neither which will work.
How about this idea. We build the fence across the entire southern border. There will be a moratorium on immigration from Mexico that until every illegal alien is registered, gets a social security card, a job that is sponsored from the employer and legally put onto a payroll where the company pays benefits and taxes there will be no immigration legal or illegal from Mexico.
After five years these "newly registered illegals" become legal and citizens. Anyone that commits a crime, gets sent back to their home country. Anyone that isn't gainfully employed in six months gets sent back to their home country. Anyone carrying illegal documentation gets sent back to their home country. Anyone who cannot deal with this process gets sent back to their home country. Any American that violates this gets a 10 year prison term, non negotiable.
The only state where the Protection of Marriage amendment did not pass, hardly a bellwether state.
Pubbies garnered 30% of the Hispanic vote in yhid last election. Wise move I guess, if your goal is to destroy the Republican party.
In case anyone doesn't know Dane is thrilled. </ Sarcasm>
Realization comes slowly to many, took me a long time to admit that Buccannon was a true anti-semite, but evidence became overwhelming.
I voted for GW twice hoping that the good would outweigh the bad, but............
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