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Is a Bush-Pelosi Amnesty Ahead?
RealClear Politics ^ | 11/16/2006 | Patrick Buchanan

Posted on 11/16/2006 4:22:15 AM PST by peyton randolph

With the resignation of Republican National Committee Chair Ken Mehlman, President Bush intends to fill the post with Florida's Mel Martinez, a Hispanic who led the battle in the U.S. Senate for amnesty for illegal aliens.

"Martinez is going to lead the fight for amnesty that Bush could not win when Republicans controlled the Congress," one angry RNC member told The Washington Times' Ralph Hallow.

Unable to extract an amnesty bill from Denny Hastert and Co. in the House like the McCain-Kennedy bill he supports, Bush is looking to cut a deal with San Francisco Nancy.

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(Excerpt) Read more at realclearpolitics.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; Mexico
KEYWORDS: immigration; reconquista; scamnesty
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1. I detest Buchanan. 2. He's right on this issue. 3. Bush is wrong but doesn't care.
1 posted on 11/16/2006 4:22:16 AM PST by peyton randolph
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This will be the final nail in the coffin for the GOP.


2 posted on 11/16/2006 4:23:40 AM PST by Sybeck1
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To: peyton randolph

Yes.


3 posted on 11/16/2006 4:25:26 AM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner ("Si vis pacem para bellum")
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Probably, and it will destroy the GOP. And there will be a serious third-party conservative contender in the 2008 election to challenge McCain and Hillary.

I will never vote for John McCain. He is selling out our country with this amnesty bill. As are the Democrats and Bush.


4 posted on 11/16/2006 4:28:46 AM PST by nj26 (Border Security=Homeland Security... Put Our Military on the Border! (Proud2BNRA))
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To: peyton randolph

Pense's compromise would have been a much better bill.


5 posted on 11/16/2006 4:29:17 AM PST by Always Right
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It's a stupid question. Of course a Bush - Pelosi amnesty is on its way. It'll be at least as bad as the one supported by the Republican Senate last year, and will ruin what's left of the United States of America. We can ill afford to add 10-20 million or more future liberal dependents on to the taxpayer's rolls.


6 posted on 11/16/2006 4:30:55 AM PST by meyer (Bring back the Contract with America and you'll bring back the Republican majority.)
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To: Always Right

"Pense's compromise would have been a much better bill."

Leaving the door open to "pathway to citizenship? amnesty?


7 posted on 11/16/2006 4:33:53 AM PST by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: Sybeck1

I don't put much stock in Buchanan's opinions.

If there is to be a "final nail in the coffin for the GOP," it will be an inside job. And that stinks.

Will have to look for the link, but one analysis I read of the election stated that NOT ONE Republican candidate that ran on a restrictionist (anti-amnesty) immigration platform won.

This was true even in areas with immediate illegal immigration problems (such as in AZ - see the defeat of J.D. Hayworth).

So as much talk as there seems to be among some segments of the conservative base about how horrible Bush's plan is, the gut check of the election apparently shows that the nation is not supporting mass deportation.

There comes a point where to survive politically a *political party* has to work within the constraints of *political realities.* Failure to do so is what kills parties---unless, of course, the party is killed from within by a small group of people who won't accept political realities.

There is substantial support for enforcement of the borders. There is no substantial support for mass deportation (the common view of what is the opposite of amnesty).


8 posted on 11/16/2006 4:38:12 AM PST by wouldntbprudent (If you can: Contribute more (babies) to the next generation of God-fearing American Patriots!)
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To: peyton randolph

So very disappointed in Mr. Bush.
And I'm a very conservative Republican.


9 posted on 11/16/2006 4:38:37 AM PST by Joe Boucher (an enemy of islam)
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To: peyton randolph; Sybeck1
1. I detest Buchanan. 2. He's right on this issue. 3. Bush is wrong but doesn't care

Actually they do care and voters are responding to those who wish the fix current mess we have now.

BTW, sybeck1 immigration demagougue J.D Hayworth is looking for new work, while someon who proposed a solution, John Kyl(whowas trashed on FR) won by a comfortable margin.

10 posted on 11/16/2006 4:41:55 AM PST by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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This will be the final nail in the coffin for the GOP.

So do you think there's anything the base can
do to change this direction. If so, what? If we
innundate the GOP maybe with voices, since 90%
of us want ILLEGAL immigration stopped.

11 posted on 11/16/2006 4:42:33 AM PST by sirchtruth (No one has the RIGHT not to be offended...)
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To: meyer
We can ill afford to add 10-20 million or more future liberal dependents on to the taxpayer's rolls.

This is the most vexing of their (Bush, Rove, RNC, et al) [il]logical premise; that all Illegals who will be granted Amnesty, WILL vote R.

Perhaps some will, but the majority will be co-opted into the Dhimi party, so why are they so anxious to add millions of new Dems to the rolls for the upcoming 08 elections?

12 posted on 11/16/2006 4:43:03 AM PST by Traditional Vet
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To: wouldntbprudent

Will have to look for the link, but one analysis I read of the election stated that NOT ONE Republican candidate that ran on a restrictionist (anti-amnesty) immigration platform won.



Well how about Tancredo as that's his sole focal point at the present time. There were others that were anti-amnesty that won, it just may not have been the center piece of their campaign.


13 posted on 11/16/2006 4:43:49 AM PST by deport
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To: wouldntbprudent
So as much talk as there seems to be among some segments of the conservative base about how horrible Bush's plan is, the gut check of the election apparently shows that the nation is not supporting mass deportation.

You're exactly right. Voters will endorse such things as English as the language of govt. and public schools, ID's for voting, etc.etc. but they do not respond to the harsh rhetoric of mass deportations or attacks on ones ethnicity.

14 posted on 11/16/2006 4:44:59 AM PST by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: Always Right

Pense's amnesty is better than the Bush/Kennedy/Pelosi amnesty? Why?


15 posted on 11/16/2006 4:46:59 AM PST by SUSSA
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If we are going to have amnesty for illegals then we should let ALL CRIMINALS OUT OF PRISON!


16 posted on 11/16/2006 4:48:43 AM PST by INSENSITIVE GUY
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

No doubt about it, that was the one issue that our President and the dems totally agreed upon.

England has the right attitude concerning illegals, they are placing a cap on how many legal immigrants can enter and stay in their Country, they are deporting illegals, I heard that on their local news when I was there couple weeks ago.


17 posted on 11/16/2006 4:51:19 AM PST by stopem (God Bless the U.S.A the Troops who protect her, and their Commander In Chief !)
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To: INSENSITIVE GUY
If we are going to have amnesty for illegals then we should let ALL CRIMINALS OUT OF PRISON!

See it's stupid chest thumping rhetoric that turns people off.

There is a big difference between a person picking food or building shelter and a murderer or rapist.

18 posted on 11/16/2006 4:52:05 AM PST by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: Joe Boucher

The Dems spent very little time on the immigration issue in the last election. They would like nothing better than have a Republican president sign a blanket amnesty bill. Once done, all those new amnesty granted Americans will vote for Democrats. They will just tell them that Bush only signed it because of them, and the media will make sure that is what they hear. This is no legacy for Bush, it is an embarassment.


19 posted on 11/16/2006 4:53:28 AM PST by dforest (Don't get fooled, the bigger struggle is still out there, and growing)
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To: Joe Boucher

I also am disappointed in Bush. I am disappointed in his nomination of Mel Martinez as Chairman of the RNC, in his allowing his wife to run her mouth in public about her pro-choice leanings, and in his stance on immigration. You have no idea how it pains me to say this.


20 posted on 11/16/2006 4:54:42 AM PST by twonie (Just because there are fewer of us don't mean we are wrong.)
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