1 posted on
11/15/2006 6:06:04 AM PST by
steve-b
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To: steve-b
I like Rudy. I can't vote for him as president at this time though.
2 posted on
11/15/2006 6:08:14 AM PST by
CindyDawg
To: steve-b
Love him or hate him, he hit the nail on the head with this one.
3 posted on
11/15/2006 6:10:06 AM PST by
Ace of Spades
(Sed quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
To: steve-b
SAY NO TO RUDY!
To: steve-b; areafiftyone
Neal makes a great point. America needs a Patton in the White House, not a Falwell.
5 posted on
11/15/2006 6:11:33 AM PST by
DTogo
(I haven't left the GOP, the GOP left me.)
To: steve-b
Rudy should go far far away and stay there.
Some place he's never been before -- say, Queens.
7 posted on
11/15/2006 6:13:38 AM PST by
Condor51
(Tagline Under Construction - Kindly Wear Your Hardhat)
To: steve-b
Hey now...moderates within the Republican Party just lost a major election in dramatic fashion.
That means...we have to run even farther to the Left in the next election.
That means...if anything...Giuliani may be too conservative.
*cough*
*cough*
*choke*
9 posted on
11/15/2006 6:14:22 AM PST by
Maelstrom
(To prevent misinterpretation or abuse of the Constitution:The Bill of Rights limits government power)
To: steve-b
How about his pro-gun control stance? Rudy Guiliani is not committed to small government and economic liberty.
11 posted on
11/15/2006 6:15:23 AM PST by
JamesP81
(Rights must be enforced; rights that you're not allowed to enforce are rights that you don't have.)
To: steve-b
Think for a moment. If we are going to win, we need to put terrorism and the economy at the top of the agenda.
If you want to talk about gays and stem-cell research first, we cede that territory to Hillary.
Looking at the candidates many are offering here -- Sanford, Barbour, Purdue -- it seems many are content to see us become a marginalized, southern party, with Hillary making all of the national decisions. Democrats invading from the west (montana, Missouri, Colorado) and the Northeast (Ohio, Virginia, Pennsylvania).
Moreover, if we want to take back at least one of the houses, we need someone that can be competitive nationally. Tancredo and Pence aren't going to hack it.
15 posted on
11/15/2006 6:18:21 AM PST by
JHBowden
(President Giuliani in 2008! Law and Order. Solid Judges. Free Markets. Killing Terrorists.)
To: steve-b
Odd spelling brings to mind....
To: steve-b
17 posted on
11/15/2006 6:19:06 AM PST by
sneakers
To: steve-b
Pro-abort, bigger Nanny State, anti-2A...
No thanks. Maybe Rudy should go back to being a New York lawyer. He was good at that at least.
18 posted on
11/15/2006 6:19:53 AM PST by
Dead Corpse
(Anyone who needs to be persuaded to be free, doesn't deserve to be.)
To: steve-b
Up with Rudy I will not put, but there will probably be enough from the left supporting him that he'll still win. All out Dems will vote for him rather than Hillary.
20 posted on
11/15/2006 6:21:10 AM PST by
DungeonMaster
(Man defiles a rock when he chips it with a tool. Ex 20:25)
To: steve-b
Maybe we could try to win Rudy over rather than dump him under the bus. It would be a worthy effort even if he decides not to run.
22 posted on
11/15/2006 6:22:09 AM PST by
Bahbah
(Regev, Goldwasser and Shalit, we are praying for you)
To: steve-b
Rudy's got three problesm as a Republican candidate. He's an All-Pro: pro-abortion, pro-homosexual, and pro-gun control. While that's not a problem in New York politics, it is nationally. Plus those pictures of him dressed in drag......
23 posted on
11/15/2006 6:23:17 AM PST by
Rummyfan
(Iraq: Give therapeutic violence a chance!)
To: steve-b
If that's Guilianni than I'm a Guilianni man. I'm just very very skeptical about whether that these are his passions.
needing a political movement dedicated to individual and economic liberty, limited government with a strong defense, cutting government spending, school choice and strong capitalist instincts ..
28 posted on
11/15/2006 6:26:58 AM PST by
DManA
To: steve-b
There's going to have to be a fusion of social conservatism and libertarian conservatism. Until that happens, we are dead in the water.
Libertarians need to learn to live with the fact that we aren't going to abide on demand abortion, euthanasia, and embryonic stem cell research. I hear libertarians talking about individual rights, but as long as they think that letting a man starve his infirm wife to death for the insurance money is OK, they are NOT serious about individual rights. We at least think the states should make their own laws about marriage.
Social conservatives are going to have to forget this instinctive 'law and order' and big govt tendencies we have. We don't go around asking the government for its permission; it's supposed to ask ours. Media censorship is a loser of an issue and it needs to be discarded and forgotten as quickly as possible. Excessive tobacco and other vice taxes are not interpreted as efforts to get people to quit smoking, but as efforts to butt into people's personal lives (which it is). Govt charity and education spending are also big losers. Social cons need to actually read the Constitution and then learn and understand the significance of the fact that that same Constitution doesn't detail the full extent of the people's rights; it details the full extent of the government's granted privileges.
29 posted on
11/15/2006 6:28:14 AM PST by
JamesP81
(Rights must be enforced; rights that you're not allowed to enforce are rights that you don't have.)
To: steve-b
If he's the nominee, I'll vote for him. If it's a choice between him, Romney and McCrazy, I'll vote for Rudi.
The only influence that the President has on abortion is by virtue of his role in appointing Supreme Court justices. I think Rudi would appoint conservative justices, irrespective of his views on abortion. He supported Alito and Roberts. That's good enough for me.
To: steve-b
To: steve-b
Why is it that people who want political leaders who support if not share their moral views (a moral code which extends back for thousands of years)- are accused of being dogmatic religious zealots who are against "individual freedom"?
Some (many? most?) of us believe the "individual" starts at conception and that marriage (defined by the world's holy texts as being vows of fidelity before God between a man and a woman) ... is a religious sacrament into which govt is trying to clumsily intrude for purposes of social engineering...
That is radical dogma?
42 posted on
11/15/2006 6:39:50 AM PST by
silverleaf
(Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
To: steve-b
Well .. .it didn't take long for the religious right to announce that up with this they will not put.Wow. I didn't realize Yoda was a religious right-winger.. ;^)
43 posted on
11/15/2006 6:41:29 AM PST by
AntiGuv
("..I do things for political expediency.." - Sen. John McCain on FOX News)
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