[JCEccles]

I'd prefer a more conservative candidate, too, but for whom would you vote if it came down to Rudy vs. Hillary?

With great reluctance I'd vote for Rudy too.

But a large number of social conservatives, most of whom have never heard of FR, will not. And that's why Giuliani will lose if he's the Republican candidate.

If we run a Republican social liberal against a Democrat social liberal, the Democrat will win. Social liberalism is the Democrats' home turf.

The Democrats and left-of-center independents will vote for the Democrat, and the remaining social liberal Republicans and independents will not have enough votes to offset the uncast votes from social conservatives who will stay home on election day.

This most recent election is solid proof of this phenomeon. Waving Pelosi's death grin gob menacingly at social conservatives didn't motivate them this time around. Screaming about Hillary won't do it next time.

If the choice is between two social liberals seeking to implement the same family-destroying agenda, why bother to vote?

[alisasny]

Balance of the SUPREME COURT is also at stake in the next election and I truly believe Rudy will appoint conservative Judges. He will not have a pro baby killing litmis test.

[paudio]

If we run a Republican social liberal against a Democrat social liberal, the Democrat will win.

Not necessarily, if the Republican is a strong fiscal conservative and strong in WoT issue. It also depends on the 'mood' of the election, I think.