Posted on 11/14/2006 1:51:18 PM PST by DCBandita
Oooh... Good one!! Bet you're fun at parties.
Yep.
"extremism in the defense of liberty is not a virtue"
Barry Goldwater.
Uh, no. But thanks for playing.
"If a cool-down period prevents one crime of passion, I think it's worth it."
What if that cool-down period gives your violent ex the three- or seven- or ten-days he needs to track you down and kill you?
I hope and "pray" it will end up OK, but it may well not, and the end game may well end up increasing the body count, rather than truncating it, under new authoritarian auspices. We need to think hard how to separate the warring factions, and fashion some modus vivendi that will hold, to avoid that sad end, as well as an end to American idealism when it comes to these matters.
Would that you apply that idea to abortion.
Or to abstinence.
You think Rudy is soft on "islamofascists?"
No, I think McCain would be better able to rally Americans in the effort to see the war through. I call'um as I see'um as much as it pains me.
Because not having an abortion doesn't result in (what many see as) the death of a child. Having an abortion does result in that. Not much more to it than that.
Rudy is the effective orator, and the persuader, not John. Rudy has been pretty solid on this issue. Time will tell I guess. JMO.
If it's abortion you want, you don't need religion to know that it's an unspeakable crime. You can discover that without religion to tell you.
Regarding the upper 2% - who do you think creates jobs to employ workers ? Not the middle class, not the top 10%, but the top 1% who "invest" that money in businesses which employ people. It is no coincidence that when the tax cuts were enacted, businesses started hiring.
I fully agree that we cannot keep spending at this rate. It's madness. But, let's look at priorities. Why do we continue to throw money at a failing school system to the tune of 500 billion a year ? Now, there's a number. Why are we spending money on rainforest projects in Illinois, and all other kinds of pork. Sen. Byrd, a Democrat, is called the king of pork for good reason. Why do congresscritters get to retire with a full pension and benefits after only a few years of service ?
Why do Democrats always talk about raising taxes and so little about reducing spending ? You know the history of all politicians is to spend to buy votes, so starving the beast is the only answer.
No one in this country goes without healthcare. No one. They may go without health insurance, but not health care.
Catastrophic health insurance is very reasonably priced - those who don't have health insurance are either uninsurable because of a major pre-existing condition or they don't care to get it. I know a bunch of people (young and healthy) who choose not to spend their money on health insurance. Well, it's their gamble, but we all pay for it with emergency room bills.
Bankrupticies have grown primarily because people view it as the easy way out of debt. Run up the bills, then get out of their obligations. All part of the entitlement mentality fostered by Democrats.
Foreclosures are beginning to grow. Why ? For the same reason people run a balance on their credit cards - they buy a house they cannot afford. In many communities it's cheaper all round to rent, but some people get interest only mortgages to buy that 4400 sq ft mcmansion. Their choice, they pay the price.
When all is said and done, people have to take responsibility for themselves and their families, much as the Democrats like to think they can take over family life with taxpayer dollars and social workers. The middle class spends about 40% of their paycheck on taxes to support the Democrat socialist agenda. Think what they could do with that money left in their own hands.
And what about those who are truly irresponsible ? Well, they need a reality check. If taxpayers weren't making life so easy for them to escape their obligations, maybe they'd get up off their butts, get an education, and get to work.
I don't mean to pry, but would you mind if I asked you to elaborate on those reasons?
When an egg is fertilized, it's a mass of cells. Yes, cells with unique DNA but cells nonetheless, as indistinct to me as any other mass of cells. That's the first thing.
Is it not just a mass of cells on Day 89? 91? 180? People who are pro-life have a hard time understanding at what moment the mass of cells converts to a human. The only two bright lines I can see are conception and birth, and even you've admitted that birth isn't the right standard.
The second thing is an essential belief that people just have sex...The only thing that stops it is to stop sex that leads to unwanted pregnancies OR to severaly minimize the likelihood that an unwanted pregnancy arises as a result of having sex. That would mean we would have to acknowledge that even young people (our daughters and sons) have sex and should have access to birth control. Yet the people I characterize as the "religious right" seem to be opposed to the sex, the birth control, and the potential abortion. I can't add that math up.
On that we agree, but I would submit that birth control education is a private matter that should be handled by the family - not something that is administered in a public school.
If you hate abortion, making it illegal isn't going to stop it.
True enough. But there are many things that are illegal, and we understand those activities continue. They're illegal because society is damaged by them, and as a society we've decided that we cannot condone the behavior.
Overstatement is a killer when it comes to winning a case. Trust me. One can say "it" is different, that it is reasonable if controversial and subjective to distinguish between the incoate insentient fetus (even though the incoate insentient is programed to become just as fully human as you or I), as opposed to the sentient one at some level with nerve action, or to draw a line between the fetus that is viable to survive outside the womb, as opposed to not, which is also subjective, but the use of the word "nothing" just gets one out on a limb, which is easily chopped off.
Isn't that just an easy answer? Some people don't see embezzling money from a large corporation as a bad thing. Should we just state that it's okay for some, and those that don't agree simply shouldn't participate?
WMD's being operational, even at this date, is a guess at best. Nobody knew and we could not chance it post 9/11, we just could not. And of course Husseins brutality and mass murder were cause to kill him and his sons and take the Baathists down but in a world of realpolitik not enough in and of itself.
Giving safe harbor to the worst of the worst terrorists with worldwide connections is not a small thing. He allowed Ansar al Islam to terrorize the Kurds and met with their leadership. He gave asylum to Abu Abbas, Abu Nidal and Zarqawi. No, the confluence of those men, his WMD technology, his hatred of America and a post 9/11 world demanded we take him down there and then. And that's how Congress saw it, rigthfully I might add.
Now we are slogging admittedly. Plenty of blame to go around but war is a messy business. We should have done this and that, the commanders on the ground should have killed Sadr a long time ago. We embraced asymmetrical warfare when we should have given a lesson in symmetrical warfare, eg. kill Sadr and wipe out his militia.
We need stronger leadership from Bush, McCain in his corner and the will to win. If we withdraw prematurely we will pay. I make that prediction with the utmost confidence in it. I've been watching the islamonuts for many years now Torie. I knew it was bin Laden who did 9/11 before his name was fashionable.
From my perspective there really is only one choice.
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