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A Question from a Webb Supporter
The Washington Post ^ | November 14, 2006 | John Whitesides

Posted on 11/14/2006 1:51:18 PM PST by DCBandita

The announcement by McCain, who has put together campaign organizations in many of the states with early nominating contests, was widely expected. The intentions of Giuliani, who has been less active in early organizing, had been less clear.

Giuliani's campaign team said the committee was simply an opening move designed to keep his options open, with a final decision still to come.

"This filing affords him the opportunity to raise money and put together an organization to assist him in making his decision," Giuliani adviser Anthony Carbonetti said.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism
KEYWORDS: conservatives; neocons; theocons; zot
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To: DCBandita
Generally speaking, I think a healthy woman who is responsible enough to wind up pregnant is also responsible enough to decide on an abortion in the first 90 days of that pregnancy. Any other moves to abort the pregnancy after that point should be done only if it endangers the life of the mother AND if it's her choice (given that her life is endangered - in other words, mothers who want to have the baby regardless of the threat to their own life should absolutely be able to do so without interference).

You posted this about the same time I made my last post. A little posting tag so to speak...

241 posted on 11/14/2006 4:06:39 PM PST by LRS
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To: DCBandita
I think the figure I saw was 2,000 total.

Oh, is that all? Only two thousand babies stabbed in the head while their bodies dangled by the neck from the birth canal? Two thousand doesn't seem that bad....

You sick creep.

242 posted on 11/14/2006 4:06:43 PM PST by Petronski (BRABANTIO: Thou art a villain. IAGO: You are--a senator. ---Othello I.i.)
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To: DCBandita
"...for me it is a fundamental decision about dominion over my own body."

I was working the polls a few years back, when a woman working for the Democratic candidate said exactly that, almost. She informed me she could never vote for a Republican as long as they opposed abortion, stating that they had no right to tell her "what to do with her own body," a slight pause and then she said, "even if it is another body inside me." I think that says it all.

"but I don't believe they're babies."

I'm not young anymore and I have yet to meet a pregnant woman who didn't consider herself to be carrying a baby. Most of them have been thrilled and excited about the little one inside them, frequently remarking on its movements and actions. Telling them that what they are carrying isn't a baby is about as good a way to make an enemy for life as I can think of. Maybe Democrat females don't think they're carrying babies, but I doubt it.

243 posted on 11/14/2006 4:06:49 PM PST by Sam Cree (don't mix alcopops and ufo's - absolute reality)
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To: MadIvan
Ok... then - do you think that a viable state is possible with only 150,000 troops on the ground? I don't. Either beef it up and get it over with or get out. This "stuck-in-the-middle, stay-the-course" thing isn't working. So how do you (or do you) defend the administration's unwillingness to go FULLY to war with all that entails? I would also ask you to consider that the reason the public is not invested in "victory" in Iraq is because they've been asked to give up NOTHING to make it come to fruition. My point is this - you can't have it all ways at once, and that's what the administration has tried to do. And they're failing miserably.
244 posted on 11/14/2006 4:07:52 PM PST by DCBandita
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To: DCBandita

As you probably know, the religious right has no problem sitting home on election day; therefore, I do not see how Rudy could get the R nomination, much less the R vote on election day.

IMO, the only way Rudy can be president is if he runs as a Democrat.

BTW, when you say "over here" does that mean you're from "over there?" Better duck!


245 posted on 11/14/2006 4:08:11 PM PST by littlehouse36 (Missouri: The Clone-Me State)
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To: DCBandita
Murdering me is illegal, MHG.

Laws can be changed for convenience. Liberals do it all the time.

You might well end your stint on this green globe because a doctor decides to euthanize you. Legally.

And you won't get a vote on the matter.

It's already perfectly legal in socially liberal Holland.

246 posted on 11/14/2006 4:08:46 PM PST by JCEccles
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To: DCBandita
My personal belief is that if you run on promises to enact a "Christian" agenda (no abortion, bash the gays, no embryonic stem cell research), you are a religious right politician.

Interesting. How would you characterize somebody that misrepresents the facts in moderate dem country?

Here we characterize them as liars.

Christians don't advocate the bashing of gays.

We do advocate not killing unborn babies. Pretty radical there I admit.

And since embryo's are human beings at that stage of human beinghood some of us oppose killing them as well. I know the notion of not killing innocent human life is radical but there you have it nonetheless.

And one more item.

Every law has a moral component to it. Not just some, every one. Politics is the mechanism we use to decide whose morality gets legislated at any point in time. I have always thought that was self evident but as I get older I relaize that phrases like "don't legislate morality" are oxymoronic mutations bred into the American psyche.

247 posted on 11/14/2006 4:10:23 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: section9

I have to admit - I'm totally surprised at the general opinion against McCain that I get here. For the record, I don't like him either because I think he's a panderer.

I DO, however, think he has it right on Iraq if you accept that leaving isn't an option - troops must be SUBSTANTIALLY increased. Yet, is the American public willing, at this stage, to accept that? I don't think so... It's a full-on mess. What a shame.


248 posted on 11/14/2006 4:10:27 PM PST by DCBandita
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To: DCBandita

Welcome to the FreeRepublic.

Using the religious right to support your position on abortion will not hold water on this forum. I could easily argue against the Roe v Wade decision without mentioning God.

Constitutionally, medically, demographically, racially...Roe v. Wade is an abomination.

Rudy Gulliani's blind support for abortion demonstrates that he is willing to fudge the Constitution, ignore medical facts, put the future of American society at risk and support the racist philosophy of Margaret Sanger...all to hold a populist position.

I'd vote for a pro-life democrat before I'd vote for Gulliani.


249 posted on 11/14/2006 4:10:40 PM PST by kidd
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To: DCBandita

At what prenatal age does the alive unborn become a human being, in your liberal leftist 'choice' paradigm?... At what age were your abortions performed?


250 posted on 11/14/2006 4:11:08 PM PST by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: libertylover76

I have to laugh - because honestly, the discussion being had over here is a mirror of the discussion being had at the liberal blogs. It's all a struggle from the extremes of either party, railing against a pull to the center. The question is - how big is the center?


251 posted on 11/14/2006 4:12:00 PM PST by DCBandita
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To: DCBandita
It is working. But even if we added another 200,000 troops you'd still be whining that "it isn't working."

That little fraud is commonly called "moving the goalposts." You pathetic cowardly pukes have perfected it.

252 posted on 11/14/2006 4:12:10 PM PST by JCEccles
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To: DCBandita
I would also ask you to consider that the reason the public is not invested in "victory" in Iraq is because they've been asked to give up NOTHING to make it come to fruition.

:-} That's a funny one. At least you have a sense of humor.

253 posted on 11/14/2006 4:12:33 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: DCBandita
Ok... then - do you think that a viable state is possible with only 150,000 troops on the ground? I don't.

General Pace was already studying how best to win the war - if the Democrats are serious about the war, then why are they not backing the General, and rather, like Carl Levin, going off half cocked about leaving Iraq starting in 4 to 6 months?

You are also very blithe about accusing the Administration about getting it wrong - the Democrats have shown absolutely no signs of how they would do it differently except to run - which for reasons I have described is not a winning strategy, nor one that will enhance the security of the Western world. Being against something is not the same as offering an alternative, I would remind you. If you try to use that tactic again, I will call you on it until you get the message.

Finally, your "more boots on the ground" strategy is a red herring. McCain discussed that in a sincere way, but I believe it's a scare tactic by Democrats to try and get support for pulling out.

Do try to think about matters rather than having the DNC do it for you.

Ivan

254 posted on 11/14/2006 4:12:38 PM PST by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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To: DCBandita

Unless you're raped, you have dominion over your body and whether it is impregnated or not. If you let one little squirmy-spermy inside, then you've made your choice right there. I have never heard of any US state government or the US government forcing sperm inside women. That would be rape.

And, I hate to break it to you, but when the egg is fertilized by a squirmy-spermy, the result is a BABY. Maybe you've never experienced such, but it is a miraculous event, sometimes uncomfortable, sometimes nauseating, but miraculous nonetheless. I would be glad to send you a copy of a sonogram from 11 weeks gestation of our youngest miracle. It is amazing how technology allows us to see a baby moving around inside the womb at 11 weeks.


255 posted on 11/14/2006 4:12:44 PM PST by petitfour
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To: DCBandita

The "center" doesn't exist. There is only the fence-sitters.


256 posted on 11/14/2006 4:13:02 PM PST by darkangel82 (Everyone has the right to be an idiot, but on DU they abuse the privilege.)
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To: DCBandita
"The only thing in the middle of the road is yellow stripes and dead armadillos"
-Will Rogers
257 posted on 11/14/2006 4:14:44 PM PST by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, Deport all illegals, abolish the IRS, ATF and DEA)
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To: DCBandita
I accidentally addressed my post to theDentist instead of you.

My post to you is #224.

For somebody so turned off by moral issues, what do you think of your party running those pro-life Democrats??

You don't suppose that had anything to do with them winning, do you?

258 posted on 11/14/2006 4:15:21 PM PST by moondoggie
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To: Petronski

At last estimates by CDC, 15,000 per year is more likely the number. Tiller does hundreds each year and the number of partial birth infanticides is growing because the 'remains' are now the number one source for fetal tissue harvesting companies who supply the research programs nationally.


259 posted on 11/14/2006 4:16:39 PM PST by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: maineman

Forbes understand the issues, as well as the premise of American freedom, more clearly than all the other candidates and politicians put together, as far as I can see.

Does he have the leadership skills to be president, do you think, and the communication skills?


260 posted on 11/14/2006 4:17:27 PM PST by Sam Cree (don't mix alcopops and ufo's - absolute reality)
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