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To: MadIvan
Ok... then - do you think that a viable state is possible with only 150,000 troops on the ground? I don't. Either beef it up and get it over with or get out. This "stuck-in-the-middle, stay-the-course" thing isn't working. So how do you (or do you) defend the administration's unwillingness to go FULLY to war with all that entails? I would also ask you to consider that the reason the public is not invested in "victory" in Iraq is because they've been asked to give up NOTHING to make it come to fruition. My point is this - you can't have it all ways at once, and that's what the administration has tried to do. And they're failing miserably.
244 posted on 11/14/2006 4:07:52 PM PST by DCBandita
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To: DCBandita
It is working. But even if we added another 200,000 troops you'd still be whining that "it isn't working."

That little fraud is commonly called "moving the goalposts." You pathetic cowardly pukes have perfected it.

252 posted on 11/14/2006 4:12:10 PM PST by JCEccles
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To: DCBandita
I would also ask you to consider that the reason the public is not invested in "victory" in Iraq is because they've been asked to give up NOTHING to make it come to fruition.

:-} That's a funny one. At least you have a sense of humor.

253 posted on 11/14/2006 4:12:33 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: DCBandita
Ok... then - do you think that a viable state is possible with only 150,000 troops on the ground? I don't.

General Pace was already studying how best to win the war - if the Democrats are serious about the war, then why are they not backing the General, and rather, like Carl Levin, going off half cocked about leaving Iraq starting in 4 to 6 months?

You are also very blithe about accusing the Administration about getting it wrong - the Democrats have shown absolutely no signs of how they would do it differently except to run - which for reasons I have described is not a winning strategy, nor one that will enhance the security of the Western world. Being against something is not the same as offering an alternative, I would remind you. If you try to use that tactic again, I will call you on it until you get the message.

Finally, your "more boots on the ground" strategy is a red herring. McCain discussed that in a sincere way, but I believe it's a scare tactic by Democrats to try and get support for pulling out.

Do try to think about matters rather than having the DNC do it for you.

Ivan

254 posted on 11/14/2006 4:12:38 PM PST by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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To: DCBandita
And they're failing miserably [in Iraq].

How do you know?

464 posted on 11/14/2006 7:06:06 PM PST by BusterBear
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