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Toys for Tots rejects Jesus dolls
CNN ^ | 1:51 p.m. EST, November 14, 2006 | AP

Posted on 11/14/2006 11:13:58 AM PST by Tulsa Ramjet

LOS ANGELES, California (AP) -- A talking Jesus doll has been turned down by the Marine Reserves' Toys for Tots program.

A Los Angeles company offered to donate 4,000 of the 1 foot-tall dolls, which quote Bible verses, for distribution to needy children this holiday season. The battery-powered Jesus is one of several dolls manufactured by one2believe, a division of the Valencia-based Beverly Hills Teddy Bear Co., based on biblical figures.

But the charity balked because of the dolls' religious nature.

Toys are donated to kids based on financial need and "we don't know anything about their background, their religious affiliations," said Bill Grein, vice president of Marine Toys for Tots Foundation, in Quantico, Virginia.

As a government entity, Marines "don't profess one religion over another," Grein said Tuesday. "We can't take a chance on sending a talking Jesus doll to a Jewish family or a Muslim family."

Michael La Roe, director of business development for both companies, said the charity's decision left him "surprised and disappointed."

"The idea was for them to be three-dimensional teaching tools for kids," La Roe said. "I believe as a churchgoing person, anyone can benefit from hearing the words of the Bible."

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KEYWORDS: christmas; inappropriate; jesus; marines; militantevangelism; toys; toysfortots
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To: NathanR

"Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image or any likeness [of any thing] that [is] in heaven above"

Time to pull the angels off the trees and chuck the nativity scenes. "Blasephemia, I tell ya, Blasphemia ALLLLLLLL around'a. GET BACK THEE SATAN'a"


181 posted on 11/14/2006 1:08:36 PM PST by Tulsa Ramjet ("If not now, when?" "Because it's judgment that defeats us.")
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To: billybudd; Tulsa Ramjet
Sigh. This is just BS. The issue is simple - it's simply rude to give a Jewish kid a Jesus doll for Christmas. Come on people, have some sense. This has *nothing* to do with Jesus being a threat. It's just that they can't guarantee delivery of these toys based on religion.


It is BS! The whole issue is BS. Tuls Ramjet - your post #9 was childish and uncalled for!
182 posted on 11/14/2006 1:09:29 PM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Tulsa Ramjet
No one worships angels. They are merely messengers.
183 posted on 11/14/2006 1:16:30 PM PST by NathanR (Après moi, le deluge.)
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To: Red_Devil 232; All
As usual, the knee-jerk reactions from some Freepers on this thread shows how some people take this kind of stuff way too seriously. This is the effing U.S. MARINES, people! They're not going to burn in hell for doing something sensible-remembering that Baby Jesus isn't worshipped by everybody. It's a toy doll, fer you-know-who's sake. And a tacky idea, at that.
184 posted on 11/14/2006 1:20:24 PM PST by WestVirginiaRebel (Common sense will do to liberalism what the atomic bomb did to Nagasaki-Rush Limbaugh)
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To: Tulsa Ramjet; sit-rep

No good deed goes unpunished, huh? Toys for Tots sets their protocols for their giving and we trash them for not meeting our own protocols. Sheesh! Some folks are unappeasable.

And why can't the Jesus-doll maker start a charity and hand them out himself? Hmmmm? Probably because someone will come along and trash his own motives. It's easier to be a critic than a do-er.

I'll support my Marines, thank you.


185 posted on 11/14/2006 1:22:40 PM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: NathanR
Funny. That is not how He looked at it.

Yes, and Muslims view Jesus Christ as a prophet who is only midway along the chain between Abraham and Muhammad. Religions can be internally consistent and still not universally accepted.
186 posted on 11/14/2006 1:22:42 PM PST by HostileTerritory
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To: Tulsa Ramjet

why does a Jesus doll even exist? i would not want my children to have a "Jesus doll." and we are Christians...


187 posted on 11/14/2006 1:26:44 PM PST by latina4dubya
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To: NathanR

"[of any thing] that [is] in heaven above"

Where do angels hang out? Burger King?


188 posted on 11/14/2006 1:26:49 PM PST by Tulsa Ramjet ("If not now, when?" "Because it's judgment that defeats us.")
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To: Tulsa Ramjet; xzins; P-Marlowe
But the charity balked because of the dolls' religious nature.

See, a Jesus Action Figure (TM) is the epitome of classlessness.

Jesus Christ is not a toy. To commercialize him like that is blasphemy and idolatry. Unfortunately, too many Christians think this is cool. Time to turn over some tables and kick some thieves and salesmen out of the church.

189 posted on 11/14/2006 1:26:54 PM PST by jude24 ("I will oppose the sword if it's not wielded well, because my enemies are men like me.")
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To: Tulsa Ramjet

why does a Jesus doll even exist? i would not want my children to have a "Jesus doll." and we are Christians...


190 posted on 11/14/2006 1:27:02 PM PST by latina4dubya
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To: WestVirginiaRebel

"some Freepers on this thread shows how some people take this kind of stuff way too seriously."

wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy too seriously.


191 posted on 11/14/2006 1:28:01 PM PST by Tulsa Ramjet ("If not now, when?" "Because it's judgment that defeats us.")
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To: NathanR; Tulsa Ramjet

"No one worships angels."

Correct (well, not sure about "no one" but correct in this context.)

To use the most obvious example, look at the description of the Arc of the Covenent that contained God's commandments: two Cherubim facing each other was the adornment.

The prohibition is against "graven images" is things people worship, of any kind.


192 posted on 11/14/2006 1:28:50 PM PST by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Lezahal)
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To: billybudd
Why would you give a Jewish kid anything for Christmas? It's not their holiday.

I don't think a Jesus doll is a good thing anyway....somehow disrespectful.

193 posted on 11/14/2006 1:29:47 PM PST by daybreakcoming
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To: Nightshift

ping...


194 posted on 11/14/2006 1:30:59 PM PST by tutstar (Baptist Ping list - freepmail me to get on or off.)
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To: MeanWestTexan
Exactly, and that is why a talking Jesus Doll, is so very very creepy. (at best) and sacrilegious at worst.
195 posted on 11/14/2006 1:33:41 PM PST by NathanR (Après moi, le deluge.)
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To: NathanR

gotta go, folks. Just posted another great thread about the Vatican condemning our newly passed border fence. see ya.


196 posted on 11/14/2006 1:34:59 PM PST by Tulsa Ramjet ("If not now, when?" "Because it's judgment that defeats us.")
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To: daybreakcoming
Why would you give a Jewish kid anything for Christmas? It's not their holiday.

In America, Christmas is simultaneously a Christian and a secular (commercialized) holiday. I knew Hindus who celebrated Christmas that way.

Put this way: if a Jewish friend offered me a Hanukkah present, I would not refuse it - though he would have to expect a reciprocal Christmas gift.

197 posted on 11/14/2006 1:37:00 PM PST by jude24 ("I will oppose the sword if it's not wielded well, because my enemies are men like me.")
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To: ShadowDancer
Really? The Jews and Muslims you know celebrate Christmas?

Yes! They don't celebrate it *as Christians*, but as an American holiday. I don't get what's so crazy about this.
198 posted on 11/14/2006 1:37:10 PM PST by billybudd
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To: NathanR

I agree it's creepy (more tacky than creepy), but my point was more the opposite --- no one will be bowing down and worshiping the Jesus Doll --- ergo, not a 10 Commandment issue.

Opinions differ, of course.

(If your opinion differs, you better not have a Christmas tree in your house, as that would be prohibited too --- same chapter of Leviticus --- taking a tree in your house and decorating it is verboten.)


199 posted on 11/14/2006 1:37:15 PM PST by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Lezahal)
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To: Tulsa Ramjet
Jesus is such a threat. His whole "Love one another as you would love yourself," is just utter, cultural terrorism is totally against our pagag way of life.

Unbelievable especially at Christmas time!!!!!!!!

200 posted on 11/14/2006 1:39:39 PM PST by pollywog (Joshua 1:9 Have not I commanded thee? Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid,)
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