Posted on 11/14/2006 11:02:49 AM PST by Dark Skies
Maybe you shouldn't make assumptions that I haven't researched it, but no, it is better to post with assumptions and not facts.
Cutting Taxes
Rudy Giuliani cut more taxes than any Mayor in New York City history, reducing or eliminating 23 city taxes that saved individuals and businesses more than $8 billion and reduced New Yorkers’ overall tax-burden by 22%. By the end of Giuliani’s term in office, New Yorkers enjoyed their lowest tax burden in three decades, along with 427,600 new private sector jobs, the strongest seven-year gain on record.
Fiscal Responsibility
Rudy Giuliani inherited a $2.3 billion dollar budget deficit and turned it into a multi-billion dollar surplus, while cutting taxes and delivering 8 consecutive balanced budgets. He cut the number of full-time city workers by 19%, excluding teachers, firefighters, and police officers, while slowing the growth of government spending to below the rate of inflation.
I just posted the facts to you!
He cut the number of full-time city workers by 19%, excluding teachers, firefighters, and police officers, while slowing the growth of government spending to below the rate of inflation.
Doesn't look like he grew Government with those facts above. Took me all of one minute to post the details.
Since when do you get to EXCLUDE a group of city workers in the overall count? Geeeez,,,,and then the second part, shows that although the growth of govt spending was slowed, IT STILL GREW!
That took me less than a minute to find two bogus points in your post. Maybe you should read he book "Leadership". I have. His own words leave no doubt of his belief in big government.
I doubt it. Unlike Cap'n McQueeg, Rudy has a better understanding of the national GOP base. It's much different going from the mayor of a town that is 80% liberal to an entire nation of voters with a completely different mindset of the world.
That post was worth about $50!
Thanks!
Clinton ran as a conservative against Bush 41, and then there's Perot. I truly believe that posters who claim "No Republican can win nationally without the conservatives" aren't really conservative to begin with.
Many of them post here under the guise of being "true conservatives".
Source?
This country ain't ready for either extreme.
I don't think too many of us will see the end of the WOT. You so-called "values voters" handed Congress over to the Democrats last week. If anyone is pro-homosexual, it's the Democrats.
Perot was able to become a factor because the difference between George the Elder and the image Clinton ran on were so close. The only difference between Dole and Clinton was Dole never raped anyone we know of. There was no compelling reason to change to Dole and Perot capitalized on that.
Bush the Younger’s two wins were squeakers because he isn’t conservative enough. Rove himself said that the Christian Right didn’t turn out in their customary numbers in 2000 and almost cost Bush the election. In 2004 he went after the Christian Right hard, which proved to be smart. It gave Bush his second term.
Rove spent heavily in the churches, including Black churches. In Ohio Bush got 16% of the Black vote, a little more than double what he got in 2000, and a heavy Evangelical turn out. The increase in the Black vote was all from the Black Christians voting against things like gay marriage and abortion. The increase in the Black vote made more than half his margin of victory in Ohio, the rest is attributed to the increase in the Evangelical vote. Rove said, “The Evangelicals came out for us this election.”
Without Ohio Bush lost no matter what happened in Florida.
It’s foolish to argue that this election was the result of one issue. Sure the Iraq mess played a big part, but the Christian Right wasn’t happy with Bush and the fiscal conservatives weren’t happy either. All these issues peeled off some votes.
To be honest, I don’t think the Christian Right has as much to complain about as the fiscal conservatives, but look at what their leaders are saying and you see that they are.
Neither party can win without key components of their base. If Greens pull too much from Democrats or working people switch sides, or Democrats take less than 90% of the Black vote, they lose.
If Republicans don’t hold both the fiscal conservatives and the social conservatives (Religious Right as the MSM calls them) they can’t win. It isn’t rocket science.
The hard part is getting a candidate and a message that can bring out ALL of the base in mass. That comes close to rocket science. That’s why campaign managers who can pull it off are well worth the big bucks they make.
Me??? Little ol' me? Must not have been much there, then.
The Democrats just kicked our asses by acting more Republican than the Republicans.
Yep, they moved to the RIGHT of republicans and came off as more conservative. Now how do you see that as a mandate for the Republicans to act EVEN MORE like liberal Democrats?
Sure, money gets spent during a war, nations even go into debt. But that does not mean you pack the bills with earmarks and pork. How Democratic.
As for ME beating the Republicans, stuff it. I voted Republican. Did I beat them?
The border has been covered only by a piece of feelgood legislation. There is no mandate to spend the money appropriated one way or another. In short it is electioneering smoke and mirrors, the only guarantee is that the money will be spent, somewhere, somehow. It is a last minute band-aid on the way to amnesty for 30 million people who are here in violation of our laws.
The only people who have done something are either wearing uniforms or volunteers.
it's you that's making sex a political issue...
The media made sex an issue, just like they tried to make it a non-issue with Clinton. Or perhaps you didn't notice.
If fidelity in the most basic of vows means nothing to you, have at it.
If you find gay chickenhawking acceptable, maybe you miss Foley.
As for marriage, if a person cannot handle the most basic unit of government, the family, and stay faithful to that, how in the Hell are they going to stay faithful to a country?
Americans just REJECTED your notion of conservatism..
Which part?
The idea that the Constitution is the supreme law of the land?
The idea that the Bill of Rights does not grant rights, just enumerates the God-given unalienable Rights which all posess unless they cede them under duress or otherwise?
The idea that slaughtering babies in the womb is murder? That forcing those who view it as murder to pay for it under the power of law is reprehensible?
We don't even force Muslims to eat pork chops in prison, how can you justify forcing Christians to foot the bill for the murder of babies?
The idea that the Second Amendment means that "...the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed"?
The idea that "Provide for the common defense" means securing our borders from foreign invasion? Not immigration, not people coming here to become Americans, but coming here to colonize without regard or respect for our laws or way of life.
Ask the last group that happened to here if that is a good idea.
The idea that no one should be able to take what is mine to enrich another and use government to do so in the name of "eminent domain"?
The idea that marriage has been and will be between a man and a woman, and until usurped by government was the purview of the Church, not government, the latter getting involved to pick up some money on licenses. That the idea of a man marrying a man, or a woman marrying a woman is at best a poor parody of that sacrament?
Is it the idea that the best government governs least, that smaller government (as promised by Republicans back when) is less expensive?
Americans did not reject conservatism.
Pay attention.
Americans rejected Republicans acting like Democrats.
If you think this is a mandate for TWO liberal parties, you might be on the wrong website.
Americans will pick the best of what is offered, in their opinion.
The bottom line, just in case you read this far is this. That opinion will be shaped and molded by the media, whatever media people are paying attention to.
Most do not come to this website and pursue facts at the level of the average FReeper. Nowhere close.
They are spoon-fed by the MSM, they get their daily ration of sound bytes from the glass teat, with voice overs and carefully crafted camera angles, edited to suit the agendae of those who produce the news.
The process is not only not fair, it is not balanced, at best it is info-tainment-- at worst lies and deceit.
Now, who controls the mainstream newsrooms?
Who decides what shots end up on the cutting room floor and which quips or stutters end up on the air?
The same people who tried to pull the fake memos on 'W' will make mincemeat of Rudy, because they have the stills, file footage, and soundbytes to shred him.
Put up a pic of Rudy in drag and throw in a voice-over and see how many voters stay home.
The media loved him as Mayor of New York. That was there and then.
They felt safer because they live there.
As POTUS? nope.
...they WILL NOT elect a more conservative candidate.
Than Rudy? A liberal? If that is the case we are far farther down the slippery slope than even I had imagined.
Save the Wales! Your souls are between you and God. Not mine to decide.
You hurt my iddy biddy feewings. It took until my 3rd marriage to find the right man. His stupid ex set him loose and now he's mine...stupid her and lucky me!
Plus Rudy is a genuine person. Hillary is a complete fraud.
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