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President Rudy Giuliani?
Forbes ^ | 11/14/2006 | Nathan Vardi

Posted on 11/14/2006 11:02:49 AM PST by Dark Skies

Giuliani has been carefully preparing for this moment. He spent the past election season accumulating a reservoir of good will among Republicans, campaigning hard for Republican candidates from Oregon to New Hampshire. He was particularly adept at raising money for those candidates and has established himself as one of few presidential hopefuls capable of raising the $100 million or so that is seen as necessary to win the White House. At the moment, he is getting help from Anne Dickerson, who ran President Bush’s highly successful Pioneer and Ranger fundraising machine in 2004.

Giuliani has allied closely with Bush & Co. He made a high profile speech at the 2004 Republican National Convention and has gone on the road to stump with President Bush. There has also been speculation, started by the Washington Post's Kathleen Parker, that Ken Mehlman, the outgoing Republican National Committee chairman and former Bush-Cheney 2004 campaign manager, will be joining the Giuliani camp.

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TOPICS: Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; anti2nd; antigun; giuliani; nextpresidentoftheus; openborders; partialbirthabort; proabort; proamnesty; rino; rudy
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To: Ethrane

The next president must be tough enough to win. Guiliani is the only one on the horizon I see with the necesary toughness.


521 posted on 11/14/2006 8:40:46 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: Luis Gonzalez

People act as though Bush won two huge landslides rather than an electoral victory and a small popular vote. They seem to believe those wins means the nation is ready for far Right policies down the line.


522 posted on 11/14/2006 8:42:34 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: Arizona Carolyn

Well JC won't be doing those stories.


523 posted on 11/14/2006 8:43:23 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: justshutupandtakeit

We'll see, you may be right the Party may have sunk to the point a pro-abortion, anti-Second Amendment candidate can get nominated. I’m more optimistic than that.

Just don’t complain if you manage to nominate Rudy and the Democrats win the Presidency. If the Republican Party isn’t going to be a conservative party there’s no reason to vote for them.


524 posted on 11/14/2006 8:43:37 PM PST by SUSSA
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To: TommyDale

Then you have to come up with a candidate capable of beating him and I have not heard one that comes close who doesn't have equal numbers of people declaring they hate him: McCain and Romney.

However, Guiliani is not defined by his policies as Mayor of NYC in any case and is far too smart to believe they will get him elected elsewhere.

His is a leader capable of pulling the nation together behind him and is tough enough to take on the Treason Media and the Party of Treason.


525 posted on 11/14/2006 8:46:48 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: justshutupandtakeit; Arizona Carolyn
The best he can do is tie the Hildebeast in the latest Rasmussen Poll.

Sadly, it would probably take another 9-11 to put him ahead. I think he would be a great asset to anyone a little closer to the Senate, but I just don't see Rudy accepting the #2 spot.

526 posted on 11/14/2006 8:46:51 PM PST by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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To: sitetest

The law charged Scott Peterson with the murder of TWO People so it is simply false that the life of an unborn baby is not protected.

The tag is false for another reason as well; there was nothing in the federal constitution preventing abortion's legality in the States. Thus, Roe would in no way prevent States from allowing abortions and most would allow some form of abortion.


527 posted on 11/14/2006 8:50:17 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: Vigilanteman

It is less important what the media reveals than how the candidate handles it. Rudy has faced the most hostile press in the country and kicks it around. Expecting a leader to emerge who only appeals to your maiden aunt Tilly is not realistic.

Besides is he going to be hit with charges of cocaine useage and drunken driving revelations? They won't work.


528 posted on 11/14/2006 8:53:22 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: justshutupandtakeit

Dear justshutupandtakeit,

"The law charged Scott Peterson with the murder of TWO People so it is simply false that the life of an unborn baby is not protected."

The law charged him with the murder of two people because the baby's mother had decided that the baby was a baby, and not merely a product of conception to be terminated.

The intrinsic rights of the baby certainly are not protected. Rather, the woman's desire is protected. If she desires to call the baby a baby, then those that harm the baby may be prosecuted. If she desires to have the baby killed, then the baby will be killed.

Where is the protection of the rights of the BABY? Only the interests of the woman are protected.

"The tag is false for another reason as well; there was nothing in the federal constitution preventing abortion's legality in the States. Thus, Roe would in no way prevent States from allowing abortions and most would allow some form of abortion."

Wrong again. My tagline says that if Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.

It doesn't say that if Roe is overturned, all, some, or any unborn child will ever be protected in law.

Overturning Roe is a necessary condition to protecting unborn children in law. Unfortunately, it is not a sufficient condition.

It will only be the beginning.


sitetest


529 posted on 11/14/2006 8:55:28 PM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: SUSSA

Conservativism seems to be a meaningless label. Don't 2/3s of the people claim they are "conservative"? You know that cannot be true unless they perversely vote against themselves.

Your definition probably only covers 10% of the party at best and maybe not even that.

The critical point is will you protect this nation that is the only "conservative" position which is required at this point. If it is not protected none of the others will even be a question. The other conservative positions are extras: low taxes, justices, Pro-life, Pro-2d. They cannot be addressed definitively unless the Nation is protected.


530 posted on 11/14/2006 8:58:22 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: John Lenin
Here...you forgot one....


531 posted on 11/14/2006 9:00:02 PM PST by Lauren BaRecall (The GOP got killed by the RINOvirus.)
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To: Vigilanteman

That is before he directs any fire in her direction.


532 posted on 11/14/2006 9:00:08 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: sitetest

A zygote isn't a "baby". It is the law which made that determination in Conner's case not his mother.


533 posted on 11/14/2006 9:03:10 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: John Lenin
Here's another...of Rudy's wife during the divorce....

What he did to her, he did very publicly. Cruel B@st@rd.

534 posted on 11/14/2006 9:07:51 PM PST by Lauren BaRecall (The GOP got killed by the RINOvirus.)
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To: justshutupandtakeit

There is nothing to say that Rudy would be any better protecting the nation than a conservative. In fact Rudy's history of making New York a santuary for illegal aliens would suggets that a conservative would be more likely to keep the nation safe.

You may remember it was illegal aliens who flew planes into the World Trade Center.


535 posted on 11/14/2006 9:10:37 PM PST by SUSSA
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To: Arizona Carolyn

Your information on the breakup of the Giuliani marriage is totally inaccurate.

He kicked her to the curb, and flaunted his married mistress in public.

There were pictures of him and his mistress in the daily tabloids. His wife tried to shelter their children from all of this, and make their lives as normal as possible.

I'm a New Yorker, and I remember the situation very clearly.


536 posted on 11/14/2006 9:17:48 PM PST by Lauren BaRecall (The GOP got killed by the RINOvirus.)
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To: SUSSA; justshutupandtakeit
In fact Rudy's history of making New York a santuary for illegal aliens would suggets that a conservative would be more likely to keep the nation safe.

This is true. Rudy forbid public employees from reporting illegal aliens.

537 posted on 11/14/2006 9:23:25 PM PST by Lauren BaRecall (The GOP got killed by the RINOvirus.)
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To: justshutupandtakeit

Rudy Giuliani is not going to win the nomination, pure and simple.


538 posted on 11/14/2006 9:27:16 PM PST by Lauren BaRecall (The GOP got killed by the RINOvirus.)
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To: justshutupandtakeit

Nice to know we didn't have the only dumb state! :)


539 posted on 11/14/2006 9:46:56 PM PST by PhiKapMom ( Go Sooners! Rudy for 2008)
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To: stockstrader

Go research what he did to NYC and how he cut Government but no it is better to post without facts. He is no big government person which is why the NY unions hate him.


540 posted on 11/14/2006 9:53:04 PM PST by PhiKapMom ( Go Sooners! Rudy for 2008)
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