President Rudy Giuliani?

Forbes ^ | 11/14/2006 | Nathan Vardi

[Dark Skies]

Giuliani has been carefully preparing for this moment. He spent the past election season accumulating a reservoir of good will among Republicans, campaigning hard for Republican candidates from Oregon to New Hampshire. He was particularly adept at raising money for those candidates and has established himself as one of few presidential hopefuls capable of raising the $100 million or so that is seen as necessary to win the White House. At the moment, he is getting help from Anne Dickerson, who ran President Bush’s highly successful Pioneer and Ranger fundraising machine in 2004.

Giuliani has allied closely with Bush & Co. He made a high profile speech at the 2004 Republican National Convention and has gone on the road to stump with President Bush. There has also been speculation, started by the Washington Post's Kathleen Parker, that Ken Mehlman, the outgoing Republican National Committee chairman and former Bush-Cheney 2004 campaign manager, will be joining the Giuliani camp.

[Froufrou]

" I know I could fix his women problems "

Now, that's intriguing! What's your secret?

[areafiftyone]

That's not a post; it's a political ad. Please refrain from doing this 60 days before the next election.

I'm sorry but Rudy thinking of running IS NEWS just like McCain thinking of running, Romney thinking of running and so on and so on. This is a news forum and I am posting news. Sorry if you don't like Rudy but many people want to hear Rudy news and I have a ping list a mile long. Sorry, but You are out numbered!

[kindred]

The pubs are bound and determined to be losers, it seems.

[streetpreacher]

That Rudy is thinking of running is news; your post however read like an infomercial.

[sitetest]

Dear Dark Skies,

"Scumbag?"

Yeah, scumbag.

Mr. Giuliani is a man of low personal morals.

I'm not saying I won't vote for folks who aren't saints. That Mr. Giuliani is a scumbag is not what will prevent me from voting for him. Nonetheless, a man who ditches two wives, squires his young chippie #3 all around town, even in front of his own children in his own home, before he's divorced from their mother, is a scumbag.

Mr. Giuliani has the morals of an alley cat.

I don't like his political morality, either, filled as it is with support for any and all abortions as well as the pro-homosexual agenda. Although I don't view it as a moral issue, I'm not terribly keen on his anti-gun rights views, either.

"... but you'll forgive me if I choose a higher standards for arguments about the Presidency of our precious country."

Heck, I called Bill Clinton a whole lot worse in the nearly nine years I've been here at Free Republic, I don't see why I should pull punches now. However, even Mr. Clinton understood that having sex with Monica was immoral, and he at least had the decency to try to hide his immorality from public view. Mr. Clinton was ashamed of himself. Mr. Giuliani wasn't. The comparison doesn't reflect well on Mr. Giuliani. Very sad.

You talk about standards of discussions about the presidency. The standards problem here isn't intrinsic to our discussion but rather to the low morality of some of the men we must discuss for the office. That we have to consider folks with loose morals for the presidency is sad, but it's how it is.


sitetest

[hinckley buzzard]

let's not forget that the presidency is, first and foremost a managerial position.

When Rudy won the mayor's office in NYC the city had been widely written off as "ungovernable" by the pundits. He proved them wrong.

There is a new book out, The Prince of the City, which is about the history of NYC politics and Rudy Giuliani's administration in particular. I haven't read it yet but reviews suggest that many if not most on this thread need to read it badly. There appears to be a lot of hot air blowing around here with nothing much to back it up.

[JHBowden]

I'll take the immoral Churchill over the moral Hitler any day of the week.

[sitetest]

Dear JHBowden,

"I'll take the immoral Churchill over the moral Hitler any day of the week."

I'm not sure what made Mr. Hitler moral or Mr. Churchill immoral. But for the sake of argument, I'd take Churchill, too.

That's why I said:

"I'm not saying I won't vote for folks who aren't saints. That Mr. Giuliani is a scumbag is not what will prevent me from voting for him."

But he is a scumbag all the same.


sitetest

[Lauren BaRecall]

Why should we give a balding, middle-aged white guy who has trouble controlling his zipper the nomination for the big cahuna?

Thank you!

[seekthetruth]

"Then he could be a great A.G., but not IMO Presidential.

No Giuliani
No McPain
No Rice
No Powell (as has been suggested in a thread last night)

The search continues... "

Tony Snow! :)

[Lauren BaRecall]

He has had his negatives out there for quite a while, and in retrospect, most of his warts are not all that ugly.

To which wart are you referring? The wart where he publicly humiliated his wife by kicking her to the curb, while taking up with his married mistress? Or the wart where during the divorce he castigated his wife by saying she was insensitive to him while he was concurrently fighting testicular cancer and committing adultery with said married mistress?

Cigar, anyone?

[Lauren BaRecall]

I wore it as my tagline for quite a while that this man is pro partial birth abortion.

I have heard it from his own mouth on the Sean Hannity Show.

I would never vote for him. He'll never get the nomination. There are many "pro choice" Democrats who abhor partial birth abortion.

Remember that there are *Democrats* who are looking for an alternative to Hillary.

[Lauren BaRecall]

After we kick islam into a tidy pile, we need to focus on restoring this country to the values on which it was founded.

What values are you talking about? Rudy is pro homosexual "marriage."

[Lauren BaRecall]

No candidate acceptable to the "conservatives" attacking Guiliani will even get close to getting the nomination and many not win any primaries.

Don't bet on it.

[pray4liberty]

Personally I like Rudy, politically he stands for nothing that I can support.

My sentiments exactly.

[Dark Skies]

No he isn't. To quote you high school teachers..."please do your homework!"

[Lauren BaRecall]

You can forget Jeb. Played Mr. Linguini Spine with the good old boys network in FL. Too many people who recognized his gutlessness have long memories.

[George W. Bush]

But if religious conservatives want to lose this election this badly, they'll find a way to kill his candidacy. Only to get McCain instead.

On Fox News, Hume's panel discussed all this. Many of these points were covered. I found it interesting that they thought Romney would emerge as the conservative candidate for the values voters with McStain and Rudy splitting the general GOP vote.

If Rudy doesn't knock McStain out early (or vice versa), Romney is in good position despite his Mormonism.

[TET1968]

I will vote for Rudy.

[Lauren BaRecall]

I just heard about an hour ago, on 77 WABC radio, that he is pro homosexual marriage. Jerry Agar, the new guy who comes on after Mark Levin, was having a discussion of Giuliani's presidential candidacy, and he said Giuliani is.

What is your source?