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To: Amos the Prophet
Recent election results have broken me of the notion that politics is any substitute for the salvation of society. Indeed, the worse government becomes the stronger people of The Way of Jesus become. Bring it on, Pelosi. Government must be experienced for the evil that it is.

I want it clear that my previous post was NOT a call to refrain from politics. Christians are called to steward God's creation; part of that is our form of government. I just get annoyed at all the time my Christian brothers spend worrying about stuff like the Ten Commandments in public places.

In other words, I'm perfectly happy with just, secular rulers. They cannot affect my relationship with my Savior or shut me up about the good news. It's not their job to make it easy on me and it's not the place of the schools or the supreme court to instruct my children about religion.

Of course, that's why we homeschool--I regard the government schools as actively hostile.

62 posted on 11/14/2006 11:37:59 AM PST by ModelBreaker
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To: ModelBreaker; JasonC
In other words, I'm perfectly happy with just, secular rulers. ...

Is that what we have when history is revised into something completely false?

... They cannot affect my relationship with my Savior or shut me up about the good news.

True. As has been pointed out Christianity is 'flourishing' in China.

... It's not their job to make it easy on me ...

What then is the job of government in your view?

(For some this was once the view of it.)

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

Of course, that's why we homeschool--I regard the government schools as actively hostile.

It is wonderful that you have your family on the road you want them on. Obviously the example of China shows that even a harsh communist tyranny cannot prevent the people from following their conscience in religious matters. So that begs the question of what is actually being attacked and altered here and for what reason.

JasonC said: "What is happening in the actions described in the article is a Stalinist attempt to erase known friendly attitudes of all our legal traditions toward the basic judeo-christian heritage of the nation, by directly lying about the actual history of the country and its institutions."

IMO JasonC has hit the nail on the head. The attack here is not on the religious conscience of any man since no one can reach into a man's heart and force it to change against his will. What they can change by altering and erasing the historical basis of our nation's founding is the knowledge of what and why our original form of government was conceived for and how it worked.

Of course you can keep that knowledge pure within your own compound but since the vast majority of American children are taught in government schools a majority will be formed who believe the new history. Lacking any significant resistance to that effort it will eventually prevail over the old history and overthrow it.

If you see no value in the constitutional republican form of gov. our founders gave us or simply don't care whether you live under its imperfections or the blessings of a communist dictate then you will obviously have no dog in this fight.

Having secured your own solace through your personal convictions of conscience, and caring for nothing else, it will be hard to incite you to stand up for the temporary and imperfect securing of blessings the Constitution stands for. Having found your great blessing beyond the frailties of mortal institutions you have the luxury of disdaining those lesser means of securing liberty. It also affords you the freedom to disdain all those who still grope for peace of mind through and beyond material pursuits under the imperfect umbrella of Constitutional justice.

You are blessed indeed to stand above them in their delusional faith in that form of justice. Secure in any situation your are blessed to stand apart from those lesser beings and concern yourself not with their struggles to find a greater truth or a better way of living among men. Having realized that bliss is not dependent upon circumstances you can feel content that they will do just as well under the whip as they would with the false pretenses of liberty and justice for all dispensed by fellow sinners.

Empathy for the ignorant is so highly overrated anyway.

64 posted on 11/14/2006 1:34:12 PM PST by TigersEye (Ego chatters endlessly on. Mind speaks in great silence.)
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