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Speculation: Microsoft will probably start selling/distributing linux soon
royans.net ^ | Nov 13, 2006 | royans.net

Posted on 11/13/2006 1:51:43 PM PST by bigdcaldavis

Anyone can tell you an interesting story, but when it comes to Microsoft and Novell’s recent deal Linux enthusiasts around the world have more than a couple up their sleeves.

Microsoft has a long history at killing competition. They started with Novell’s Server market, they tried to do with Java, and today they are trying to do it against the Anti-Virus vendors. They succeeded against Netscape, gained significant grounds against Sony’s Playstation, and killed a thousand other products that I can’t name because I forgot about them after Microsoft obliterated them out of the market. If any of you are XBox lovers, I don’t have to tell you that in the war over consoles Microsoft has been losing money on every XBox it sells. Zune (the competition to iPod) is said to have a similar strategy. In short Microsoft has a huge bank balance and can pump in a lot of money until the competition goes bankrupt.

As a result of this announcement its not a surprise that the Linux world is almost up in arms against Novell for giving in for a few pieces of silver. I on the other hand have a different prespective on it.

* Microsoft isn’t interested in suing anyone (anytime soon atleast) because of its Vista launch schedule and the tricky negotiations going on in Europe * SCO has already tried the same FUD which Microsoft is accused of trying. In fact if you remember Microsoft had “licensed” SCO unix in a similar deal which was indirectly used to fund SCO’s battle against IBM/Linux * Most of the other visible products Microsoft has went after till now have been markets where Microsoft didn’t really have a foothold. Linux is one of the very few unique products which started up as a competitor to Microsoft has has gradually increased in popularity over the years. [Firefox/Mozilla is the other one which I admire] * The other interesting point to note is that unlike most other commercial vendors who got nailed by Microsoft’s pump and dump strategy, Linux is not a commercial entity which can go bankrupt. They can kill Novell, but it will be very hard for them to kill the whole linux movement.

My personal analysis is that Microsoft is afraid.

* Its so afraid of loosing this battle that in its moment of desperation its ready to do anything short of launching a Microsoft branded Linux distribution. * The Financial deal Microsoft and Novell signed has a few hints of where this might be heading. * To begin with its clear both of them want to integrate each others OS using each others technology to provide a better virtualization experience. * Its also clear that though Novell might use significant portions of proprietary Microsoft technology (for example for authentication, authorization and accounting) Microsoft will mostly be using GNU code to which Novell doesn’t have any rights anyway. * So why is Microsoft paying Novell ? * And what’s the deal with 240 million dollars for linux license subscription cost ? What is it going to do with that many copies of linux distribution ? * Oh wait, they could embed it into your Microsoft operating system ? Have you ever thought which distribution of Linux you would use if your Microsoft OS copy you already have, has a Linux distribution pre-bundled with it? * Novell also mentions that it will pay Microsoft a minimum amount of licensing fees, which can increase depending on its own sales. So may be it will sell Windows as well… who knows. But it will sell something with at least some part of Microsoft code in it. * Finally based on my personal opinion (with no understanding of financial details) it almost looks like Microsoft has kind of bought a share of Novell’s company and wants a piece of the action every year. * May be Microsoft is going to announce something even much more significant which will dramatically increase Novell’s sales. May be Novell is an investment after all… not just a pump-and-dump target.

My thought process finally took me to the one place I didn’t want to go… Its the thought that Microsoft will soon bundle Suse linux with one of its own products.

Coming back to the discussion on whether we should abandon Suse or not, I personally think it doesn’t matter as long as Microsoft is not trying to kill it. Stop acting like a 5 year old kid who doesn’t like the big guys. If anything, you should be excited about more commercial support behind your favourite OS. And if they really do bundle Suse with every Desktop/Server OS thats exactly what I wanted when I joined the revolution. Linux on every desktop… I have said this before, and I’ll continue to say it that I’m not opposed to Microsoft Linux as long as others can innovate and keep Microsoft on its toes.


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To: rzeznikj at stout
If my dad can get another old laptop from work...

ROFL

41 posted on 11/13/2006 5:58:01 PM PST by Golden Eagle
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To: Golden Eagle; MikefromOhio

And who asked you for your opinion?


42 posted on 11/13/2006 6:22:37 PM PST by rzeznikj at stout (Boldly Going Nowhere...)
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To: rzeznikj at stout; Golden Eagle

It's not like Iggle could get a malfunctioning laptop to work either.

That's why they promoted him.

LMFAO


43 posted on 11/13/2006 6:23:43 PM PST by MikefromOhio (Fear the SWEATERVEST!!!!)
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To: MadIvan; David1

Most of the time, I run KDE--though a few times, I run XFCE (which is small and IMHO rather slick)

Each one has its purposes, I guess.


44 posted on 11/13/2006 6:25:06 PM PST by rzeznikj at stout (Boldly Going Nowhere...)
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To: MadIvan
I use Ubuntu Linux and PC BSD. Microsoft has no place in this house.

Nor will any Microsoft distro.

ALL YOUR DISTROS ARE BELONG TO US!!!

45 posted on 11/13/2006 6:27:41 PM PST by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: MikefromOhio

LOL


46 posted on 11/13/2006 6:31:16 PM PST by rzeznikj at stout (Boldly Going Nowhere...)
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To: rzeznikj at stout

Well they do tend to promote people to the level of their incompetence.

If he does actually do what he says he does for a job, it makes perfect sense.

:-)


47 posted on 11/13/2006 6:33:29 PM PST by MikefromOhio (Fear the SWEATERVEST!!!!)
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To: MikefromOhio

No wonder why there's always problems with The Network...8^)


48 posted on 11/13/2006 6:34:17 PM PST by rzeznikj at stout (Boldly Going Nowhere...)
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To: rzeznikj at stout

hehe yep :)


49 posted on 11/13/2006 6:38:46 PM PST by MikefromOhio (Fear the SWEATERVEST!!!!)
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To: Golden Eagle; rzeznikj at stout; Petronski; JRios1968; FLAMING DEATH
Linux is only free to those whose time is worth nothing.

WTF is this? Golden Iggle - Philosopher at large?

Please!!!! LOL!!!!
50 posted on 11/13/2006 6:39:52 PM PST by MikefromOhio (Fear the SWEATERVEST!!!!)
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To: MikefromOhio

Whatever, just because you maintain the "Jim Rome Ping List" does NOT mean you actually know anything about computers, LMAO. I remember the first time you showed up and tried to claim you were the network admin, but then admitted you didn't even have the password. Classic!


51 posted on 11/13/2006 6:43:44 PM PST by Golden Eagle
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To: taxed2death

What type of chipset does your wifi card use? If you don't know, enter "lspci -v" at a command prompt. It will tell you more than you ever wanted to know about what hardware you have.


52 posted on 11/13/2006 6:44:45 PM PST by zeugma (I reject your reality and substitute my own in its place. (http://www.zprc.org/))
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To: MikefromOhio

Linux is free to those whose wallet remains sealed.

The learning curve for any alternative is at least HUGE.


53 posted on 11/13/2006 6:46:57 PM PST by Petronski (BRABANTIO: Thou art a villain. IAGO: You are--a senator. ---Othello I.i.)
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To: MikefromOhio

Got the manual buzzer? 8^)


54 posted on 11/13/2006 6:53:49 PM PST by rzeznikj at stout (Boldly Going Nowhere...)
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To: Golden Eagle; MikefromOhio; JRios1968

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!


55 posted on 11/13/2006 6:54:59 PM PST by rzeznikj at stout (Boldly Going Nowhere...)
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To: MikefromOhio
Linux is only free to those whose time is worth nothing.

Please!!!! LOL!!!!

I find it to be absolutely astounding that some people still have the gall to make that kind of a claim after we see thread after thread of people whose MS-Windows is completely borked because they've been infected with some spyware/trojan/worm dejure. You then see people chiming in with,

"well you need 'ABC anti-spyware', 'DEF personal firewall', 'antivirus GHI', and 'HIJ spyware cleaner' to get what ABC misses. Remember to run these regularly, and keep them updated. Blah, blah, blah.

Yeah, sure. Linux and OSX users, who don't have to deal with any of that crap on a continual, ongoing basis are really having their time wasted.

56 posted on 11/13/2006 6:56:02 PM PST by zeugma (I reject your reality and substitute my own in its place. (http://www.zprc.org/))
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To: Golden Eagle
Whatever, just because you maintain the "Jim Rome Ping List" does NOT mean you actually know anything about computers, LMAO.

What the hell does THAT have anything to do with knowing anything about computers? You sure as hell talk about computers a lot, yet you don't know jack about them.

I remember the first time you showed up and tried to claim you were the network admin, but then admitted you didn't even have the password. Classic!

LOL!!!! And as with most everything else you claim to know, you're wrong here too.

Run along Iggle, you're boring everyone again.
57 posted on 11/13/2006 6:57:04 PM PST by MikefromOhio (Fear the SWEATERVEST!!!!)
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To: All
"Linux is only free to those whose My time is worth nothing."

There. Fixed it...

58 posted on 11/13/2006 6:58:29 PM PST by rzeznikj at stout (Boldly Going Nowhere...)
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To: zeugma

exactly.....

Iggle is just plain damn dumb is what it comes down too.

He doesn't know what he's talking about.

And what's worse, if he is who he says he is, his ideas about how a network should be run are actually implemented.

Scary huh?


59 posted on 11/13/2006 6:58:32 PM PST by MikefromOhio (Fear the SWEATERVEST!!!!)
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60 posted on 11/13/2006 6:58:33 PM PST by GretchenM (What does it profit a man to gain the whole world and lose his soul? Please meet my friend, Jesus)
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