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He sure has taken this party down a risky road....I think the attitude is they do not need conservatives or so they think. I cannot stand Martinez...He is a open border advocate...

I disagree. President Bush is not an idiot. He knows exactly what road he's taking the party down. A lot of this goes back to when he was Governor of Texas.

It just so happens to be a road that neither you or I plan on using anytime soon.

The fact that we are seeing some RINOs putting together groups to study their potential for a Presidential run speaks volumes.

Since last week, I've been saying that this is a chance for true conservatives to take back the party. President Bush and others are trying to head us off at the pass.

The GOP leadership knows they can't win without conservatives, and at the same time, they'll fight us all the way in our efforts to return the party to its base, because the GOP we want and the GOP the RINOs, country club Republicans, etc., want are not the same party.

They've held this attitude "if you don't support us, you'll get democrats running the show" over our heads. Well, we now have democrats running the show, and so now, temporarily at least, conservatives and moderates/leftists in the GOP are on even ground.

Make no mistake my friends, the RINOs are trying to stop conservatives like us before we get out of the starting gate and get some traction going.

Very good statements....I have stated before this election and now after....If this party does not get back to its Conservative values then this is only the start of a bad day for all of us that are conservatives....There is to much at stake to head to the middle...I believe that our Country is now at risk with just this mid term election...We can change that with a win in the Presidential election..It is not going to happen if those in charge of this party do not go back to what got them there in the first place...If they pass a guest worker program with citizenship as a reward....Then I do not know what I am going to do....We are in a bad place...We sometimes have to hold our nose and vote but I think that we have to change and demand that conservative values be at the head of the list to get our suopport...